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Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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I am lost. Where did Musk say anything about fanciness of the code? Or is it your interpretation of what he said?

> Before doing so, please email me a bullet point summary of what your code commits have achieved in the past ~6 months, along with up to 10 screenshots of the most salient lines of code.

“Salient” is not a synonym of “fancy”.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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I'm guessing they were just offered a half-decent severance and didn't want to work there anyways?

> and didn't want to work there anyways? Who would , anymore?

OK, good enough point

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Comments talking about how Musk will look at those screenshots of code and somehow determine an employee's worth are hilarious. This obviously has nothing to do with evaluating a developer's quality; this is a classic move dictators do to determine who has chugged the kool-aid all the way (who are the most loyal and subservient underlings willing to demean themselves to this level). Nothing more, nothing less.

> demean themselves to this level

I guess we have different definitions of what's actually demeaning.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Comments talking about how Musk will look at those screenshots of code and somehow determine an employee's worth are hilarious. This obviously has nothing to do with evaluating a developer's quality; this is a classic move dictators do to determine who has chugged the kool-aid all the way (who are the most loyal and subservient underlings willing to demean themselves to this level). Nothing more, nothing less.

Yup. Elon is approaching Ye levels of losing the plot.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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The most important person on my team can probably no longer write idiomatic code for the platform we use at this point, as the platform has moved forward while he's spent the last 6 years mostly working on high level architecture and tying together systems that range from HMI to Automotive to AI... You could probably fit his committed code for the last 6 months on one page, confuse it for a junior dev's output, and y…

Ok, so that’s one person that just needs to explain his role to the new boss. But the same excuse can’t apply to everyone on the team.

And the new boss has enough time to throughly review the contributions of every employee in the company? To be fair is the number of engineers left in Twitter falls to double digits this just might become possible...

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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I'm no Elon fan, but why does essentially everyone in these threads automatically assume he is wrong? Has no one here worked at companies where there was more dead weight than talent? Where 80% of the work being done is by 20% of the people, and there are whole teams that do almost nothing? What if there is no clean, efficient way to discover who should be fired and so Elon's fallback plan is to test for who really w…

For one, there's more thoughtful ways of joining a company and remaking the culture that aren't a shitshow. Instead of starting with 50% layoffs, you could have started with the ultimatum to stay for 'hardcore twitter' or not. Then you have a loyal set of employees AND reduced headcount.

The problem with that is you're skipping a step. You need to drop the dead weight so-to-speak before locating the people that can ship code and are loyal.

He has been very aggressive to be sure, but the media is following this unlike any other reorg because Twitter is their livlihood.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Elon is a genius - seriously. Having worked at similar companies myself, I have a pretty good sense for how this went down (mostly speculation of course): • On day 1, Elon probably talked privately with some of the head engineers at Twitter. He told them he wanted to trim the fat, and asked them how much could be cut while basically keeping the lights on and the website up (accepting some risk of temporary outages).…

I don't think this is genius, it's hard nosed decision making.

I personally think he wants to move Twitter mostly on maintenance mode until he has cleaned house, and then slowly rehire when new features are more clear. For that, running on 20% staff might be actually ok.

The key would be to retain the right people. And I'm not sure which filter I'd use.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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A lot of Seniors/Staff don't write "code". They're architecting/planning/guiding. If I'm a Senior Staff DevOps engineer who maintains our entire Kube infra, am I gonna show Elon some sweet YAML configs? "Oh here's my Go templating for our org wide Helm charts that isn't really novel but is really important?"

> A lot of Seniors/Staff don't write "code". They're architecting/planning/guiding. This is a problem.

You want your seniors/staff to have engineering experience, but at some level complaining that they don’t code any more is like complaining that the people who design bridges aren’t going out there and laying concrete foundations 400m deep into river beds any more.

Re: If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to the HQ now

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Apparently when they first met, she gave him a dressing down and told him a bunch of things he needed to do to be successful. He then tracked her down and hired her to do all the things.

He's got a mega case of "George Lucas Syndrome" it seems. He needs someone who can tell him "No."

You have to wonder: if he was starting SpaceX now and had the same interaction with Shotwell now, would he hire her? I doubt it.
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