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Re: Just don’t

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I thought this aversion was just my own insecurities. I once had a manager that used to start every ask with this. I finally shared with him that every time he throws the word "just" into an ask, it seems to minimize the actual work required to get X done. He acknowledged that he understood that things don't JUST happen, and to his credit, I want to say he stopped using can we just as his lead in. It be became. Can "…

i used my imagination and took that to be a very good outcome. can you confirm this is the case?

Re: Just don’t

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Thank you for bringing this up. This was a life lesson that unfortunately had to be spelled out for me in a very embarrassing way. My ultimate takeaway is to now default to listening without advice. The result are on average better as people who want to vent are more put-off by advice givers than advice seeks who receive a good listener. It's also made me quite a bit more appreciative of times when I need to vent and…

What do you do though? Just stand there quietly nodding? When I try to do this I end up basically saying "that sucks", "hmm hmm", "yeah", etc which is very frustrating to me as I'd hate someone doing that to me. Or worse, sometimes I get the feeling that those "that need a listener" actually want mindless agreement with whatever the situation was or I feel like I'll be reinforcing insecurities. Let's say someone is t…

There’s a big difference between agreeing with someone, and acknowledging their emotional state.

In these situations people just want to hear you acknowledge that you understand they are in pain, no necessary agree with their cause of action.

If you’re not sure what to ask, then your best course of action is to enquire about why they think they feel a certain way. Why does they job makes them stressful, why does talking with a certain person make them anxious. You’re not rendering judgement on their emotions or feels, you simply acknowledge they are what they are, and that’s normal.

For some specifics the following might be useful:

“Why do you think X makes you anxious”

Once they answer

“Yes, I understand now why that might make you anxious”

Or

“It’s perfectly normal to feel anxious”

If there behaviour is causing issues:

“It’s perfectly normal to feel anxious, that’s ok, but the way you’re dealing with it is causing issues for X. Perhaps we can find a better way for you to cope?”

For more, it’s worth looking at Mental Health First Aid. It can provide a number of very practical tips of dealing with someone in crisis, which are also excellent for helping those that just need to vent to someone.

Re: Just don’t

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post #269

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> It's not fair to ask people for help and then complain about their word usage when trying to help. This is a situation where solicited advice was asked for. This is not wrong but it's not always useful. Being more kind in your language when giving help will carry your point across more clearly. Consider a junior engineer stressed out by deadlines -- sure, they should listen to you calmly and fix the problem, but it…

When I ask for help, I go with humility, it'd never cross my mind to get helped and then turn around to chastise someone based on their use of words, I care about if they helped me fix the problem or not. Is pragmatism dead?

> Is pragmatism dead?

Yes, unfortunately. Along with many other things. Our society has become socially hyper-conscious and that means that anything practical and in some cases observation of reality itself must be sacrificed on the alter of social consciousness.

Re: Just don’t

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Then shouldn't you, by your own principles, have kept silent instead of posting that complaining?

I don't think my post is a complaint, more an expression of desire. It has also spawned an interesting discussion, which seems to be the idea here.

That's exactly a complaint.

Re: Just don’t

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+1 to this advice. I've heard it as "do you want comfort, or solutions?"

This sounds really patronizing. I would be careful with that phrasing. People who don’t want their problem solved often know the solutions and don’t like the tradeoffs or change they entail. It is often not a knowledge problem.

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Re: Just don’t

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Related: if someone has a chronic condition, don't drop on them unsolicited medical advice, especially things like "have you tried yoga?", "you just need more sunshine", "you must try my cousin's healing tea!". You're not their doctor, and they haven't shared all the medical details with you. Your 3-second diagnosis is almost certainly terrible. They've heard it a dozen times already, and it's difficult and tiring to…

There's a whole subreddit for this https://www.reddit.com/r/thanksimcured/top/?t=month

Re: Just don’t

#298

I'm all for cutting this out with medical advice and such (unsolicited advice, and importantly wrong advice), but this example annoys me: >You look at some graphs and error messages. It’s easy (once again, I speak from experience) to say something like “Could you just cache the hot partition keys?” or “So, just scan the logs for the high-latency signals and frequency-sort them.” >This. Will. Not. Help. It's not fair…

Yeah, plus... sometimes caching the hot partition keys is just the answer to the problem.

Re: Just don’t

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I have a hard time empathizing with this. I understand the principle, but here's where I come from/my experience: When many of my coworkers message me on Slack for example, they don't just leave me a message asking for what they want, they say "Hey, how are you", or "How was your weekend", or some other silly thing. I know they don't care about the answer to my question. Now, instead of being able to asynchronously a…

Spreading https://nohello.net/ around your company may help. I have it set as my status message.

This rocks, thanks for sharing
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