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India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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> Why does the US need to stick to a 2% inflation rate? Because high inflation means the money in your bank account becomes worthless at an exponential pace.

Which encourages investment and spending, stimulating the economy, rather than letting money sit idle.

not everyone wants to actively invest their money, "spend/invest your money or lose it" is a pretty shitty attitude

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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One of the best things about living in India is watching families move from lower or lower-middle class to middle-class status. Usually, all it takes is someone from the family landing a white-collar job. While the tech bodyshops (TCS, Infosys, etc.) might have a poor reputation in the US, these companies have been absolutely critical in helping move tens of millions into middle-class respectability.

>While the tech bodyshops (TCS, Infosys, etc.) might have a poor reputation in the US, these companies have been absolutely critical in helping move tens of millions into middle-class respectability. At the cost of Americans dealing with poorer tech support, buggier software (sometimes critical software that leads to million dollar losses), and employment fraud (like lip syncing in interviews where someone else answe…

Kind of an irrelevant point given that none of these are externalities.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

#293
post #287

One of the best things about living in India is watching families move from lower or lower-middle class to middle-class status. Usually, all it takes is someone from the family landing a white-collar job. While the tech bodyshops (TCS, Infosys, etc.) might have a poor reputation in the US, these companies have been absolutely critical in helping move tens of millions into middle-class respectability.

>While the tech bodyshops (TCS, Infosys, etc.) might have a poor reputation in the US, these companies have been absolutely critical in helping move tens of millions into middle-class respectability. At the cost of Americans dealing with poorer tech support, buggier software (sometimes critical software that leads to million dollar losses), and employment fraud (like lip syncing in interviews where someone else answe…

You make it sound like every employee TCS/Infosys hires are like that. Yes there is fraud and issues with the bodyshops and I am not a shill for these companies but these companies hire tons of Americans as well and create 1000s of jobs in America for Americans. So a blanket statement doesn't add much value.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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post #289

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Discussions about poverty is usually confused by the two competing definitions: - Absolute Poverty: If you have less than $X/day, you are poor. This measures living standards. - Relative Poverty: If you're in the bottom x%, you are poor. This measures status. Without knowing anything, it sounds like this measurement is more on the Relative Poverty side.

I don't understand how relative poverty can improve.

Via more equal outcomes. An egalitarian society might have the same net wealth as a stratified society, but with less relative poverty.

Of course, the bottom x% is what it is - but if you create margins or classes then it works different - ie, the % of people who are making x% less than the median or average or whatever.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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its amazing. and unfortunately they will be the last generation that will be able to do it. just like for western countries everything will become unaffordable and the middle class wont be able to buy houses

I'm not sure of your point, but I think I disagree. The previous comment was about going from poverty to middle class. Why won't this be possible in the future?

If India follows the west then it won't be possible for 2 people with education to lift a family out of poverty to middle class. In my country you basically require 2 full-time wages to be able to support a 3 person family. You wouldn't be able to buy an apartment and car for your family.

I think that is the point they were making.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Which encourages investment and spending, stimulating the economy, rather than letting money sit idle.

not everyone wants to actively invest their money, "spend/invest your money or lose it" is a pretty shitty attitude

Wherever you have "high" inflation you have bank fixed deposit rates to match. Do you know what the FD rate is for major banks in India say for a 1 year FD (CD)?

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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I don't understand poverty statistics. With this news, the UK now has more people living in poverty than India (16% vs 22%?). If it is valuable to judge poverty on relative income, you would think the rational course of action would be mass immigration from the UK to India but that is clearly not the case.

Discussions about poverty is usually confused by the two competing definitions: - Absolute Poverty: If you have less than $X/day, you are poor. This measures living standards. - Relative Poverty: If you're in the bottom x%, you are poor. This measures status. Without knowing anything, it sounds like this measurement is more on the Relative Poverty side.

This is an incorrect definition of relative poverty as on that basis then number of people in poverty will never change - no one interested in serious analysis would use such a definition as it is not useful.
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