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Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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Post by vorpalhex »

youngtaff wrote: post #140
vorpalhex wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The advertisers pulled before any layoffs. Actually they started pulling the day before he took over. The teams he cut are mostly silly teams. A climate team? At twitter? AI Ethics? He has to stop burning money. He is moving twitter from ad funded (which never paid the bills) to subscription funded (which might pay the bills? $8/mo is nothing. It will certainly make bans hurt more. It will significantly help spam.)

He’s burning money because he loaded the company with a billion dollars of debt Without that debt Twitter was in much better shape

Twitter took the debt. Twitter did not have to take the debt. Twitter made that choice before agreeing to Elon.

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Post by Guthur »

This makes no sense and I call BS by a media that is plainly controlled by the state.

Why would anyone who actually used Twitter, an obviously curated social media, want to move to a more free platform because Elon bought Twitter and wanted to ostensibly make it more open.

There is an obvious attempt to destroy Twitter, for whatever reason, with big advertisers pulling out and the government mouth piece, the BBC, is now encouraging users to leave.

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Post by gonehome »

Angostura wrote: post #277
gonehome wrote: post #102

Mastodon and federated systems like it will not succeed beyond a tiny niche, will not replace twitter, and don't even solve most of the problems they try to solve. They don't fix the upstream issues that lead to centralization. Incentives mean most users end up centralized on a handful of servers with a worse experience. It's the worst of both worlds. As designed the UX is bad and cannot be fixed because of these iss…

> Incentives mean most users end up centralized on a handful of servers with a worse experience. I don’t understand this point. I’m on a tiny server, but read the federated feed most of the time. What’s the problem?

Most users won't run their own server, they'll be on large centralized ones with all of the same problems that entails.

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Post by dorfsmay »

gonehome wrote: post #102

Mastodon and federated systems like it will not succeed beyond a tiny niche, will not replace twitter, and don't even solve most of the problems they try to solve. They don't fix the upstream issues that lead to centralization. Incentives mean most users end up centralized on a handful of servers with a worse experience. It's the worst of both worlds. As designed the UX is bad and cannot be fixed because of these iss…

I would LOVE if there was a way to federate FB, instagram, twitter, etc...

You post and read on your preferred platform but can see posts from your friends from other platforms, or even their own implementation on their own server!

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Post by toofy »

colin_jack wrote: post #126
gonehome wrote: post #102

Mastodon and federated systems like it will not succeed beyond a tiny niche, will not replace twitter, and don't even solve most of the problems they try to solve. They don't fix the upstream issues that lead to centralization. Incentives mean most users end up centralized on a handful of servers with a worse experience. It's the worst of both worlds. As designed the UX is bad and cannot be fixed because of these iss…

> As designed the UX is bad and cannot be fixed because of these issues. For fun I just tried signing up and the process itself is confusing, sluggish, buggy, and ultimately didn’t work. It feels like it’ll need to improve very quiclkly if it’s going to capture any significant amount of Twitter users.

maybe there are different signup processes on different servers or something?

for me it was enter an email address, username, and password?

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

qzx_pierri wrote: post #53
addajones wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does it matter how much he’s worth? Never understood why people are so concerned about him cutting jobs? He bought the company and took it private. It’s his right to restructure it and try to make it generate profit as he’d wish. The board of directors of public Twitter approved of this. What do people think, the USA is FOSS?

> Why does it matter how much he’s worth? Because some people think that wealth somehow equates to evil. It's a very juvenile way to think, and I suspect most people don't even know why they dislike Elon (or any other billionare - Elon is just an example). After people read so many sensationalized articles online, they adopt the author's sanctimonious opinions/views as their own. It's shocking how people can hold so…

Money equals power. One billionaire equals too much power in single set of hands. Some of us don't like power concentrated in too few hands. it is a simple argument.

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Post by colin_jack »

ceejayoz wrote: post #252
colin_jack wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The slowness and bugs might be due to the sudden influx of people from Twitter Yeah definitely, feels like they should have seen this coming though. They have an opportunity that won’t come around again, and poor performance and confusing UX seem like pretty serious problems.

“They” describes a non-profit, low-resourced set of volunteers. Seeing it coming and being able to do something about it aren’t the same thing.

I dunno, on performance they could just have limited number of registrations to what they can handle. Better that than having potential users getting a bad impression because everything is too slow.

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Post by gonehome »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #236
gonehome wrote: post #102

Mastodon and federated systems like it will not succeed beyond a tiny niche, will not replace twitter, and don't even solve most of the problems they try to solve. They don't fix the upstream issues that lead to centralization. Incentives mean most users end up centralized on a handful of servers with a worse experience. It's the worst of both worlds. As designed the UX is bad and cannot be fixed because of these iss…

> Elon may not succeed, but I hope he does and what he's doing is a necessary prerequisite. Everything he's done so far reads like he's deliberately trying to destroy the company. The only reason I don't really think that's his intention is that I don't see how he could hope to benefit from it. But it doesn't make sense.

The Twitter status quo was one of stagnation (took them ten years to ship edit to a handful of people) - they're a good example of how you can basically do everything wrong, but if you have product market fit it's hard to fail.

He's trying to pivot them into a focused company. I think his actions make sense in that context.

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