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Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse

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Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse

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I believe Android does this too, letting users pick a specific directory they want the app to have access to

Now, Android does this and only this , which is insane. It won't let you grant access to the main storage, Downloads or any other standard folder even if you explicitly navigate to it and select it.

Afaik access to main storage can only be granted if the app declares the "all files" permission. I'm not sure what's the deal with the downloads folder though

Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse

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post #265

I kinda sorta see google’s side. There are just too many shady operators out there who will swear blind they’re completely honest, and maybe they are, but they also employed a third party to write code or maybe just imported a 3rd party lib (i am in no way saying this is the case) As to, why don’t they look at the code? bugger that being standard practise, i’m not handing over my code to google or apple. Even if they…

> Even if they did, how to check final the uploaded binary? By requiring and verifying a reproducible build. It would be awesome if open source apps on an app store has a badge indicating which commit of which git tree they came from and only allowed updates that similarly come from public trees. Even failing that, favoring reproducible builds would add a considerable degree of traceability to the entire distribution…

Even easier for the platform owner: if they have your code, then can compile it themselves.

Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse

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post #28

I was intrigued by the prospect of a foss voip phone app that's cross platform - but was unable to find the repo. for the app (libary repos are available and obvious, just not the app as a whole). Anyone know where it lives?

The website calls it the Voys app but I think it's actually called Vialer: https://github.com/open-voip-alliance/vialer It's the only full app in their repo and it fits the description they gave on the website.

Indeed, the Voys app is a white-label version of Vialer. See: https://github.com/open-voip-alliance/vialer/blob/9e81baffc3...

Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse

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post #94

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No: Voys is a Dutch company with a South African counterpart. Their Dutch entity sued the Dutch government for not providing enough clarity on how mandatory call logs get processed on the government side.

I think they meant that the text "We even sue governments for protecting the privacy of our users" probably should have been "We even sue governments to protect the privacy of our users," or "...for not protecting the privacy...," etc.

That's indeed what they tried to say, but they translated it very Dunglish.

[1] blog story: https://www.voys.nl/blog/voys-wint-rechtszaak-van-agentschap...

Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse

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post #6

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Never? Unless you give up on NFC, banking apps and all those goodies.

> Never? As the post you directly responded to never said the word never, I'm thinking you where actually responding to the previous comment. In which case: yes, never. > Unless you give up on I don't refuse to install apps, I have apps for both my primary banking organisations on my phone, I don't intend to write apps, I don't intend to provide extra fodder for their platforms and claims of their size. Most apps don…

Banking apps tend to refuse to run on custom ROMs, even if unrooted.

Re: Google is forcing us to make our open source VoIP app worse

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post #246

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How exactly was the sky falling?

http://static.spiceworks.com/images/how_to_steps/0000/3886/t...

This is funny, but in practice there would be maybe one or two of these bars. Many didn’t work together. These toolbars didn’t stop people from being able to work, eat, or pay their bills. I know. I lived through this era.
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