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One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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#1 is great. A gold digger (and a low intelligence one at that) waving their red flag at first contact.

The vast majority of women would rather have a successful man as a mate than the alternative.

The parent is saying that the choice of phone is a poor indicator of success (likely because Androids can cost just as much as the most expensive iPhone and vice versa, old iPhones can cost as little as the shittiest Android).

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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I agree that this is a middle school level analysis, but I've seen it a couple times in practice during my career. 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) 2. A manager at my old company was advised to get an iphone for communication with VCs. One of our old leaders had heard commentary from a V…

> Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android I haven't lived in a country where text bubbles used to be a thing, but I noticed this. People, even people who are smart and kind in other aspects, still cling to the easiest social cues. Doesn't matter if you wear a Margiela t-shirt or what you drive; your tinder date or a person who you just met in a bar will look at your p…

Well, might as well get a BMW and Rolex now...

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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> Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android I haven't lived in a country where text bubbles used to be a thing, but I noticed this. People, even people who are smart and kind in other aspects, still cling to the easiest social cues. Doesn't matter if you wear a Margiela t-shirt or what you drive; your tinder date or a person who you just met in a bar will look at your p…

It's the opposite. You're now missing out on the valuable signal of whether someone is obsessed with wealth and class or not.

Women who are in their 20s or 30s and at least moderately attractive are deluged with male attention. It's not necessarily irrational for them to use quick and dirty filters, even if that often produces false positives.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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What? No. Apple is at best indirectly responsible.

Apple knows exactly what coloring the bubble differently will do. The bully is just a marketing instrument to the Apple executives. Normally, I would blame only the bully, but this seems willful on Apple's part. They want kids to feel bad and tell their parents they need an iPhone. They don't give a damn that they're just another point of friction in people's days.

Do you think there would be less bullying in a world without different coloured bubbles?

Do you think the bubbles cause bullying?

I'd imagine the bubbles are just an excuse, which would immediately be replaced with something else in their absence.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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I didn't like FB well before it became fashionable, but I don't understand your logic here: what is that exactly that you can't entrust WhatsApp to send, but you can trust Apple, or your mobile carrier?

Facebook's goal is to extract as much information from you as possible. Apple wants to sell you a new phone.

It's absolutely not like that. Apple extracts profits in a lots of ways, including those which rely on gathering personal data.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32539762

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Apple knows exactly what coloring the bubble differently will do. The bully is just a marketing instrument to the Apple executives. Normally, I would blame only the bully, but this seems willful on Apple's part. They want kids to feel bad and tell their parents they need an iPhone. They don't give a damn that they're just another point of friction in people's days.

Do you think there would be less bullying in a world without different coloured bubbles? Do you think the bubbles cause bullying? I'd imagine the bubbles are just an excuse, which would immediately be replaced with something else in their absence.

Do you think there would be less bullying in a world without different coloured bubbles?

If the Apple's own messages were the same color as SMS or other avenues and Apple made a best faith effort to make sure messages worked, then there would be one less avenue of bullying.

Do you think the bubbles cause bullying?

Yep. Its status and a lot of bullying comes from the world reaffirming your status over others.

I'd imagine the bubbles are just an excuse, which would immediately be replaced with something else in their absence.

Maybe, but it wouldn't be Apple's fault.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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This seems to be mostly a US American thing, mainly because of the same reasons BBM was a thing: lots of chats over SMS used to be a thing, and then chats over iMessage, which like BBM, you can only join if you have a device from a specific vendor. That means that you can only be in a special social circle if you buy the same stuff. That won't change because of some colours, because it's not the colours causing the t…

I agree that this is a middle school level analysis, but I've seen it a couple times in practice during my career. 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) 2. A manager at my old company was advised to get an iphone for communication with VCs. One of our old leaders had heard commentary from a V…

> 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android)

This is a red flag against the women in question, not the Android user. That attitude/behaviour is a great indicator of a gold digger. You'd be dodging a bullet by avoiding these women.

The only other people that share that attitude are teenagers. So if you go along with this horseshit and buy an iPhone just to feel more comfortable dating, you're courting women with the maturity and intelligence of the average teenager.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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I've never heard an actual human express noticing or caring about the color of the bubble.

It was commented on frequently when I was online dating, to the point that it got annoying. I've had a few friends mention it and jokingly tell me to give in and get an iPhone. I'm mid-thirties.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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It didn't get better.

That's just like, your opinion, man. SMS/MMS is decentralized, open, and works on every modern mobile phone out of the box. No other text messaging technology does this yet.

Open for Verizon to read/modify, you have no way of knowing the other half’s identity (was their number given to someone else in the meanwhile), no encoding is specified/due to non-ASCII characters taking more SPACE (in 2022) so auto-SMSs still today will just force ascii text, making it often unreadable. Like, it is literally a single digit number of bytes difference.

Also, you need like.. a carrier plan to access, wouldn’t really call that open. Any network based messenger can work over my home or even McDonald’s wifi, without any third-parties

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