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Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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The problem is that he is trying to monetize the distribution of content. All his talk about decentralization is pointless, because he wants a system where there are gatekeepers, the only difference from Twitter (or Facebook/Google) is that in his view these gatekeepers should be baked into the protocol. It would be comical if it wasn't diabolical.

> he wants a system where there are gatekeepers Does he? He says "it can't have an advertising model" and that it shouldn't be centralised. > in his view these gatekeepers should be baked into the protocol I don't see how that could in practise be done, and my reading is that Dorsey either doesn't want it or doesn't think it's possible (or both).

> He says "it can't have an advertising model" and that it shouldn't be centralised.

That does not contradict the idea that you can have gatekeepers: just make it so that the your "decentralized platform" requires payment for distribution of content and/or that it is not subject to any equivalent to "Common Carrier" rules. Sure, in theory everyone would be playing by the same rules, but in practice you'll be turning one single gatekeeper (Twitter) into many (Big Corporations, VCs, media companies, already established influencers), and everyone would presumably be paying a cut to whoever is running the distribution platform.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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I'm very blissfully unengaged in Twitter as well, could you kindly spell out what it is you are referring to as the "elephant in the room"?

The Elephant in the room is that Musk is pretty much the perfect example of what makes Twitter terrible, and Dorsey had more than enough opportunity to fix it because he was literally in charge of the company for years and did nothing. All the shit Musk is throwing at Twitter now is stuff Dorsey was responsible for.

Aptly put. Dorsey was goofing off for years as Twitter’s CEO and now suddenly he is the guy who cares about Twitter. I remember people compared him to Steve Jobs when Dorsey returned to Twitter because Jobs at one point managed Pixar and Apple. What misplaced faith!

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Watch this walk around Starbase with Elon and Tim Dodd, and you'll get a pretty good sense that he has an engineering brain that really understands the complexities of design, build and execute more than anything. https://youtu.be/t705r8ICkRw

I will watch it, but is he the same the “engineering” brain that thinks his Tesla tunnels are a good idea, continually promises tech that is decades away from realization is right around the corner (like self-driving cars or a humanoid robot or a Mars mission), and got replaced as the runner of the actual engineering organization (SpaceX)?

I’ll take a loose lipped dreamer that eventually delivers on most of his promises in a spectacular way over a buttoned down PR rep that consistently goes over budget, pushes delivery dates by years and drops a disappointing and outdated product at the end any day.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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It's about the context, Dorsey has basically been an absent CEO for the last 5 years. All the reporting is basically that he wasn't engaged, didn't make decisions, and in the end he didn't really step down from Twitter, he was forced out by activist investor buying up shares and pushing him out. It's not like he didn't have an opportunity to address the issues at Twitter, it's that he went off and worked at a differe…

There's also the fact that he's on the board of directors of Twitter while he's sending these text messages conspiring against the shareholders he represents!

Wonder if he could be sued.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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What? I've literally never felt this way. Every time someone wanted to have a call with me, it was so they could push me into something with their whining, or so they could misinterpret what was said without me being able to point at a timestamped sentence. For these reasons I always refuse calls about anything important - and never had any problems solving various business issues over text. How specifically is text…

It would appear by implication that you would see meetings as always less useful than documents. This is clearly not true. Calls and meetings are almost always better for working through nuanced issues.

They are faster for when there’s only a few participants which both deeply engaged.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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-- Screenshot 1: [Jack Dorsey] "Yes, a new platform is needed. It can't be a company. This is why I left." [Jack Dorsey] " https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1507777913042571267?s=20... " [Elon Musk] "Ok" [Elon Musk] "What should it look like?" [Jack Dorsey] "I believe it must be an open source protocol, funded by a foundation of sorts that doesn't own the protocol, only advances it. A bit like what Signal has done.…

Does anyone else find this conversation awkward / cringe worthy? "Hey genius billionaire, what's up?" "Oh hey other genius billionaire..." "Let's do some shit because you know, the morons on the board didn't get it, I just didn't get my way so I left to do bitcoinz", "Off to dinner, later bro, let's solve all the problems tomorrow"... "Cool bro, I'll try buy the company and forfeit at the last minute when I realize I…

for starters its missing all the meta information that tells you what time they were sent, how much time between replies, what was going on in the real world with both their lives when they were messaging.

to me it looks like two guys spitballing and being open to move onto the next step... ang guess what thats all a billionaire is.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Your comment serves no purpose, offers no feedback, and is rude.

It's a genuine question? It sounds so outrageous I couldn't tell if it was satire or not? We've all become a little sensitive?

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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It's so obvious that Musk was not really interested. The social balance was totally non-existent in this conversation. Musk's one line replies sound so generic. Seems like he wanted to keep the door open but Dorsey hadn't convinced him really yet. "I'd like to help if I can" is such a without obligation sentence. Then Jack replies with another well-designed text.

Have you listened to Elon speak? He’s not exactly gifted when it comes to conversational skills. His texts read pretty typical for someone more interested in working out details than wasting time on small talk.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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It seems to me that once your middle management is infested with the wrong kind of non-tech people (because you couldn't resist "growing" forever), you don't stand a chance anymore. To me it seems this is what happened to Larry & Sergey, too.

Yeah I reckon at Google, that came from above. That was Schmidt. > "There is what I call the creepy line," he said, according to The Hill. "The Google policy on a lot of things is to get right up to the creepy line and not cross it."

Schmidt ran the company relatively well. Googles issue is the lack of focus and rewarding technically complex 10x ideas. Meaning long term recurring compound gains is not rewarded.
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