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Re: Go runtime: 4 years later

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Post by avgcorrection »

bayindirh wrote: post #288
avgcorrection wrote: post #277

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> Go is designed with a human centric view, IMHO: "Make writing great programs easier rather than design a language with novel/cutting edge features, but with a high cognitive load", and I find it as a noble aim as Rust's guarantees and aspirations. I don’t understand his horrid informal writing style trend. You are clearly not quoting anyone and just providing your own interpretation. So why in the hell are you usin…

Equally, I don’t understand the horrid assumption about everyone being born in an English speaking country and has English as the native language. So, why in the hell are you just berating me via a comment box? I made a mistake, alright, and used quotation marks as a tone modifier, because I know no other way to do that. However in this case you could just pointed me the right direction without berating, since pointi…

> Equally, I don’t understand the horrid assumption about everyone being born in an English speaking country and has English as the native language.

Did I even hint that I was assuming anything about native vs. non-native English speaker? Or blaming non-native speakers? No. Play that wounded ESL violin somewhere else.

> I made a mistake, alright, ...

I said that I think that it is bad style. Alright. I didn’t say that it is wrong. (People are doing it a lot these days so apparently it isn’t wrong.)

Re: Go runtime: 4 years later

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Post by bayindirh »

avgcorrection wrote: post #291
bayindirh wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Equally, I don’t understand the horrid assumption about everyone being born in an English speaking country and has English as the native language. So, why in the hell are you just berating me via a comment box? I made a mistake, alright, and used quotation marks as a tone modifier, because I know no other way to do that. However in this case you could just pointed me the right direction without berating, since pointi…

> Equally, I don’t understand the horrid assumption about everyone being born in an English speaking country and has English as the native language. Did I even hint that I was assuming anything about native vs. non-native English speaker? Or blaming non-native speakers? No. Play that wounded ESL violin somewhere else. > I made a mistake, alright, ... I said that I think that it is bad style . Alright. I didn’t say th…

There's no blame, I agree, but expecting everyone to know proper use of quotation marks (incl. uncommon ways) pulls in some assumption about proper grammar, hence some long experience with the language. Quotation marks are simple tools, but they are hard to master, because they have nuanced uses too. Getting these things wrong is easy.

> Play that wounded ESL violin somewhere else.

I'm not playing a wounded violin, or any violin for that matter. I'm a double bassist. Jokes aside, I'm not being apologetic, just explaining my position. On the other hand, if reading a comment squarely in your own tone bothers you, you might want to think on that, at least a little.

Your wording of your comment implies that I'm doing something wrong by using quotation marks, and I take a note for that. Why are you so upset because somebody admits that there's a room for improvement?

The only thing I'm not agreeing on is your way of sending the message to this shore, that's it.

The thing is, neither English punctuation, nor Hacker News has many facilities to convey tone while discussing. I like to do that in my writing style to convey feelings and tone of my comment. Quotation marks seemed like a usable way to do that, and I possibly got used to that from literary works I've read, so I copied the method.

However, if a native (or more knowledgeable) person tells me that I'm wrong, I tend to believe them and try to learn the proper way, that's it.

Re: Go runtime: 4 years later

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Post by vlang1dot0 »

gompertz wrote: post #283
vlang1dot0 wrote: post #256

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It has an automated release generated every week. The could be no commit activity whatsoever and there would still be 52 "releases" of V every year. It's one thing to like V but it's another to constantly repeat misleading information in an attempt to give it more credence than it has. Even V's own changelog only contains 28 releases (mostly from the 0.1 era in 2019 - early 2020) not "hundreds" like you've claimed. h…

Didn't dang already issue you a warning for this perpetual nonsense? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31930011#31941278

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Re: Go runtime: 4 years later

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Post by Klonoar »

Tozen wrote: post #236
Klonoar wrote: post #87

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>Also Go is much easier to read vs Rust. This is subjective - I for example have no real issues reading Rust code, but find Go to look like utter spaghetti on the screen.

I have to side with those saying Go has greater readability, and is easier to use and learn. I know there is a strong push (and arguably corporate backed) to put Rust in everybody faces or present it as being superior, but we still need to be realistic and honest. Not saying that Rust doesn't have its places where it can shine, just that a lot of people are going to find Go to be easier to deal with overall, and it w…

>I know there is a strong push (and arguably corporate backed) to put Rust in everybody faces or present it as being superior

No part of my comment was doing this, and this bit is entirely unnecessary and adds nothing to the comment you wrote except fan religious wars about languages.

Re: Go runtime: 4 years later

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Post by RhodesianHunter »

pjmlp wrote: post #220
RhodesianHunter wrote: post #98

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Most developers on the JVM with any freedom have switched to Kotlin.

Better check those numbers, only those forced by Mountain View minions have done so.

I'm talking about on the server, not Android... but sure. Bury your head in the sand.
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