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President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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It's really concerning how many people here are calling for a war between nuclear states...

It’s really concerning how many people here would cave to nuclear blackmail. Which part of your own country would you be willing to give up to the nuclear power so it doesn’t launch its nukes for now?

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Can someone Russian explain what on earth they are thinking? Russia appears to have 10x the casualties as Ukraine, soldiers that doesn't really want to fight, and are currently losing. Yet the leaders think it is a good idea to keep the war going? To me it seems that with the material Ukraine is receiving from the West they will easily retake all territory Russia has occupied.

Gotta try to save face. Russians will continue to support their government in Ukraine if they believe it is still doing well in Ukraine.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Russia was already always going to lose that "superpower" tag the moment the world shifted from hard industrial goods to consumer goods and technology. The first computer, the growth of the Japanese consumer goods industry, and Silicon Valley likely did as much to collapse the Soviet Union as anything else - they were simply out of the picture the moment we started creating software and portable stereos and personal…

Yeah, it's great how Javascript simply replaced industrial processes and our society no longer needs natural resources - only more stars on Github.

I am sure there is some javascript in there, but its mostly a mixture of c/c++ and similar languages and rust to control industrial robots.

For CNC and lathes its p-code.

There is a surprising amount of camera vision, etc used in automation as well.

Entire industrial processes were replaced with code and automation (read, more code) and robots.

And of course robots are produced by factories with robots.

Second, a lot more of what we are doing has been dematerialized. The entire factories that used to make film camera (as just one example) have essentially been replaced entirely with software, and the experience is better in every single way for customers.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Their automotive industry depends on east europe, and is a massive source of pollution and clocked cars. Some countries tried banning old german cars but obviously the eu “threatened” them with “sanctions”. So its not just the resources they are after but also their pockets and health. Just here on this forum you can see many express disdain at east europeans, more than any other group of people, instead of acting li…

It is interesting how neither the Russians nor the West delves on to what extent this whole affair is about Germany, and the role Germany played in all this. Even now, the official narratives involving Germany focus on foot dragging on arming, stuff like that, whereas the actual geopolitical story is so much more 'interesting'. Btw, history calls with a rude interruption to remind that the Germans were also the first…

> It is interesting how neither the Russians nor the West delves on to what extent this whole affair is about Germany, and the role Germany played in all this.

And thats fine, because the issue is neither russia not the west. The issue is east europe, the region of it thats sandwiched between russia and central europe (germany). Just to be clear, my aim is not germans but german politics which find it extremely convenient that a weak east europe cant compete with germany.

In regards to croatia and slovenia, and pretty much all other east eu countries, indeed germany has a good humanitarian track record and has been a steady supporter of democratisation of these countries. But somehow it managed to block their development through excessive regulation, and excessive chauvinism.

There is no debate about east europe on here where a person from that country doesnt throw in corruption and poverty, none of which are on a scale as bad as so dominate every.single.discussion.

Americans dont exhibit the same behaviour when it comes to india, yet india is far poorer and far more corrupt than any east eu country, yet germans always poop on poland, hungary, romania, and so on. A very inhibitive approach in my view, and very non allied like behaviour.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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What does this mean?

I presume its about what to „save“ as in „saving face“, i.e. keeping your reputation intact vs. „Saving ass“, i.e. staying alive/in power. Keeping up the facade of this being a „special military operation“ left alive the excuse of „we are not really trying all that hard to win this“ whereas (partial) mobilization more signlas towards „this is going south lets do whatever works to end this“

Are they going to try to blame this failure on the soldiers?

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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do you know what occupy means

I swear some people think real wars work just like risk and all you have to do is stuck your soldiers on a country tile to improve their defense.

Took me a bit to realize you are talking about Risk.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Of course both sides have an interest in downplaying their losses, and exaggerating their victories. Do you think that reporters and conflict analysts aren't perfectly aware of this ancient fact?

Where are then US, UK and other countries estimates about Ukraine losses? Because they certainly aren't in linked Wikipedia article and all I can find in Google is just Ukrainian propaganda and few articles from Russian claims (which are on opposite side of spectrum, not thta those ridiculous US estimates would not be propaganda as well).

> all I can find in Google is just Ukrainian propaganda

There is no use discussing it if any results that contradict you are "propaganda"

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Regarding the "Partial" claim: https://twitter.com/JanR210/status/1572498112840695809 Aeroflot stopped selling air tickets to all Russian men aged 18-65 who don’t have authorization from the military office (voenkomat).

This is fake (at least for now). They can sell it. All tickets to Turkey, Dubai have already sold

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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Not quite. Russia has already lost several multiples of the total losses it experienced in Afghanistan as the USSR (many of which were Ukranian btw). The USSR had a lot more troops vs. Russia's current situation which is really a smaller peacetime army (pre mobilization). The reason they had to leave Afghanistan was it simply too expensive due to the cost and the sanctions and they couldn't afford to do it. Which IS…

>> too expensive due to the cost and the sanctions and they couldn't afford to do it. Which IS what is happening in Ukraine too. How so? Putin is swimming in money Europeans send him. Sanctions are a joke.

Sanctions are shutting down production of some of their weapons system as the weapons systems have been shown to have been made with western parts. For example American made gyroscopes were found in their cruise missiles.

Re: President Putin has announced a partial mobilization in Russia

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A few months ago analysts were warning of impending collapse of Russia's troops due to poor supplies and poor morale. Russian cheerleaders on HN were doubting it as Western propaganda saying it had been declared for months and not materialized. Well it materialized in the collapse of the Kharkiv front over a week so there's that. In all, I don't think the mobilization is likely to matter. The Russian problem is bad s…

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