Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run • Hacker News Board

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by igouy » Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 6:33 PM UTC

Andy_G11 wrote: post #257

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That’s an amazing feat. Goes to show we once were predators who weren’t fast but had the stamina to outrun most of our prey.

Interesting video here of one of the San people running down a Kudu which collapses from exhaustion after an 8 hour chase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o . Hard to compare this to Sorokin because the hunter is running in veld, not on a road, and has far less access to refueling points. Also, if he fails to track the prey down on day one, he would probably have a go again on day two, maybe even day three.…

"Over the course of 20 years, only two of the ER hunts observed by Liebenberg were spontaneous. Eight others were prompted by Liebenberg so that they could be filmed for television documentaries."

p436 "The endurance running hypothesis and hunting and scavenging in savanna-woodlands"

https://www.originalwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/bsk-pdf-ma...

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by igouy » Fri, Sep 23, 2022, 5:43 PM UTC

boston_clone wrote: post #284

igouy wrote: post #278

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16 km — 13 September 10 km — 11 September 16 km — 26 August 21 km — 7 August Well, you did ask. That's likely evidence, that once-upon-a-time, it was helpful to go a relatively short distance faster than walking pace.

Honestly, thanks for sharing - that's some good distance if I'm doing my conversions right :P Our skin with its vast distribution of sweat glands coupled with our comparative lack of body hair certainly made us well-adapted to pedestrian movement.

"The hunt takes place during the hottest time of the day, with maximum temperatures of about 39–42 C. Before starting, the hunters drink as much water as they can."

"A prerequisite for persistence hunting would have been the invention of water containers. In contrast to horses and camels, humans cannot consume large amounts of water at one time. Human thermoregulation requires considerable water for evaporative cooling, and this would have made it essential to carry water in containers."

2006 "Persistence Hunting by Modern Hunter-Gatherers"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260135266_Persisten...

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by kamaal » Sat, Sep 24, 2022, 4:29 AM UTC

jononomo wrote: post #283

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Ideally the 'pump' is not for your biceps, but shoulders. The book is really nice, he goes into the details of how it's to be done.

I think I'm going to go up to 3-pound weights. It definitely feels like a more complete workout.

It feels far more tiring than a regular jog, or a run.

The higher weights will be even better. It feels so obvious now that we see this, but it follows from common sense, with four limbs and weights the workload is far higher than a regular walk/jog/run.

There is no sense in going to back to regular plain weightless hand walk/run/jogs.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by kamaal » Sat, Sep 24, 2022, 4:31 AM UTC

jononomo wrote: post #286

kamaal wrote: post #279

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Ideally the 'pump' is not for your biceps, but shoulders. The book is really nice, he goes into the details of how it's to be done.

Ok, so I just did 4.1 miles on the treadmill at 8% uphill slope with 5-pound weights in each hand. I'm sure it works the shoulders as well, but there is definitely some bicep work going on there -- you have to keep your elbows bent, for one thing, which means your biceps must be doing some work.

I'm still at 1 kg, brisk walk, 2 hours straight. Will go to 2.5 kgs soon.

Its great you were able to walk with a 2.5 kgs on the very first try.