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Plastic might be making us obese

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Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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Shame should be a powerful motivator. It doesn’t seem to work too well in the west though.

shame is just as unhealthy as obesity. the west recognizes that, somehow.

I suppose I should have clarified that I don’t advocate for shaming others.

But personal shame and shame avoidance has been the single greatest tool for my own success.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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I do a lot of high school senior photography. It's hard to talk about this without sounding crude as a guy but something that I've noticed that contrasts with when I graduated high school (2006) is just how many girls have huge breasts. I think there were 2 girls in my grade that were skinny and had what would be called "large" breasts. Most other skinny girls had the standard A or B cups. Now a very large portion ha…

1) I have a suspicion that girls are getting birth control pills at much earlier ages than they used to. Putting a girl on bith control pills in the middle of puberty is going to have an effect somewhere and weight gain is one of the documented effects of birth control. 2) Girls getting fatter likely triggers other changes as well. Given that the female body works very hard to shut down reproduction when fat is scarc…

> 3) I think you heavily underestimate the number of girls who get breast implants. For a while, it seemed like every 16-year-old girl was getting them. You could notice a significant contrast when shifting between areas with different socioeconomics--blue-collar areas mysteriously had lots of girls with much smaller breasts than white-collar ones.

Citation definitely needed for this. Cosmetic surgery in the US is not covered by insurance and requires parental consent for patients under 18. While I do see more young women (and men) with "body modifications" like tattoos under 18, I strongly doubt we have a significant number of parents who are taking their teenage daughters in to get breast implants before they've even finished high school.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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>Are Asians simply using less plastic than other races? Considering that Japanese use an absolutely terrifying amount of plastic for food packaging and aren't landwhales, I'd say the theory from TFA's headline is bunk.

Or it could simply be explained as the Japanese culture of eating conservatively; portions tend not be "supersized" unlike in America.

That's right, but it's consistent with what the parent comment is saying: it's not the plastic packaging causing obesity. You're agreeing with a tone of disagreement.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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Why does the Mediterranean diet work so well? Because of the socialized healthcare. (in other words: "it's not the diet dummy", just like it's not the plastic)

After living a year in Florida and then living a year in Serbia, I can't say I'm convinced it's the socialized healthcare is what makes Europeans so much skinnier than Americans.

I think the skinnier Europeans are what makes socialized healthcare work. Lots of expensive to treat diseases are just a result of a poor diet.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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I consume multiple times more sugar than the average person, and I'm thin as a rail with a healthy metabolism. Sugar in itself isn't likely to be bad. Sugar in addition to a deranged metabolism is probably bad. Fixing the deranged metabolism, (which is likely to be caused by various environmental factors) will probably be the best solution.

> Fixing the deranged metabolism > with a healthy metabolism. how are you measuring that you have 'healthy metabolism'.

Standard measures like blood pressure, avg body temp, thyroid levels

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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I'm afraid you are the one who has it completely backwards: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-types/different-f...

Checkout this book: https://thebigfatsurprise.com/ Looks like the NHS is behind the times. In the US they've removed statements like the one you linked to. It's becoming scientific consensus that saturated fat doesn't cause heart disease.

I'd rather trust the expertise of doctors who've actually studied this stuff than a moron journalist, thanks.

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> even bog standard bread Yes, we definitely have too much sugar in everything, but as an amateur baker I will defend sugar in bread. Sure, you don't need it in a baguette or a rustic boule, but it is indispensable for a nice, soft sandwich loaf. It's not there to make the bread sweeter. It makes the bread softer, it boosts the yeast for a nicer rise, and it keeps it from going stale as quickly. Granted, I don't use…

I'll add to this: A lot of home cooks were taught to add a bit of sugar to the bread to help the yeast. I used to mix yeast, water, and a bit of sugar together to get the yeast started. I mostly did this because I learned to make bread before the internet, and this was common in instructions that I could access.

https://youtu.be/AqFeXxa_NTk

This guy experiments with sugar levels and how it affects yeast.

Turns out the water absorbing properties of sugar also has a large effect in the other direction, so maybe it doesn't really help the yeast

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maybe the bmi is also wrong. if your index is labelng half or more of ppl as diseased, maybe the index is broken. except for jockeys, meth addicts, and runners, most men are going to be aleast borerline overweight by 30. i dont know any thin people. maybe we need to make drugs legal..that will fix it. perhaps there is a good biological reason people weigh more, why fight nature.

BMI was not created to be a marker for health, it was created by a mathematician to calculate government food allocations. It blows my mind that we still use it.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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Is it the plastic though, or is it the sugar? Over my last few years of reading, I've convinced myself that sugar is the main culprit in massive obesity in Western countries, especially the US (i.e. high fructose corn syrup). Sugar is in everything (like plastic, I suppose). Look at the ingredients of what you buy and you'll be surprised where it turns up. Peanut butter, mayonnaise, beef jerky, even bog standard brea…

I've tracked my diet pretty regularly over the last several years. The one constant in every weight-gain cycle for me is a sugary treat after a meal. This is true even when I've otherwise kept my caloric intake constant.

Blood sugar spikes do strange things to our hunger response.

If your blood sugar is too high the body may produce an emergency response to keep blood sugar down and it may overshoot which makes you hungry much sooner.

Re: Plastic might be making us obese

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post #269

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Why does the Mediterranean diet work so well? Because of the socialized healthcare. (in other words: "it's not the diet dummy", just like it's not the plastic)

After living a year in Florida and then living a year in Serbia, I can't say I'm convinced it's the socialized healthcare is what makes Europeans so much skinnier than Americans.

Doesn't Serbia have one of the highest rates of tobacco smoking in the world?
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