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Any Apple-devices users here? Why would I use this instead of Apple built-in password manager?
Glad for them and I really hope them to succeed in the long run, engrosing the list of successful bussiness based on OS. As a side note, I've been tempted so many times at this point on getting a payed subscription and getting rid of my "keepass+keepassdb sync via Google drive+keepass keyfile local copy on each device" for the sake of making things simpler. I've read how the internals work, checked the auditories, re…
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Not gonna lie, I'm having a hard time justifying the 3-4x increase in cost for Padloc vs. Bitwarden. The pricing is only rivaled by 1Password, which makes it a hard sell to me...
Well, there is the problem, isn't it? If people aren't willing to pay what amounts to a cup of coffee a month for a service they rely on daily, how are companies supposed to build a sustainable business without raising money?
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Ugh, I'm paying for LastPass because I haven't gotten around to switching to Bitwarden yet. They list a monthly price, but they actually charge you annually, so you're essentially locked in for a year (if you want to make the most of your money).
Pay the monthly fee for 2 months, then if you like it go annual. Assume you like it, you are going to be using it for a year anyway.
I would never have someone else manage my passwords for me. You have to trust the server. It could serve the user with malicious JS code or an app update at any time. You can self host it though.
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Now they are also raising rounds of funding “chasing after the enterprise”. Every single time a small bootstrapped company tries to “accelerate growth by going after the enterprise” the product gets worse for consumers. See also DropBox. 1Password’s desktop app is much worse than it use to be all while each platforms built in capabilities are getting better.
>1Password’s desktop app is much worse than it use to be all while each platforms built in capabilities are getting better. I keep reading this but as a user of 1Password over the past decade or so, the functionality hasn't changed much. I'm confused as to what they're spending all the VC money on because these re-writes haven't done much but in terms of functionality, I think it's best in class. What am I missing?
A full rewrite takes a lot of time. We did this twice in the past and it is always painful. We had to do it again this time because the discrepancies between the platforms became ridiculous and we had to fix this. For example, the same search would produce different results on Mac and Windows and Android.
We also took time to address some of the pain points that existed in 1Password 7. For example, it was technically possible to have a different Master Password on your Mac and iPhone, etc.
The local database was rewritten and we made sure that everything that is possible is fully encrypted. For example, all rich icons are now stored encrypted. We also changed the logging system to make sure no personal information is ever logged. At the same time, we had to make sure the data format is backwards compatible with the old version so that both 1Password 8 and 1Password 7 can be used during the transition.
We ran over 100 studies with both existing users and people who never tried 1Password before to make sure the apps are more usable by everyone.
For new users we added New Item experience that made it easier to navigate through templates and understand how to use 1Password. For developers, we added CLI integration, support for SSH keys, and a built-in SSH agent that secures your ssh private keys.
Brand new Linux app, more than 100 new features and improvements overall, on top of the full rewrite.
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Not gonna lie, I'm having a hard time justifying the 3-4x increase in cost for Padloc vs. Bitwarden. The pricing is only rivaled by 1Password, which makes it a hard sell to me...
Well, there is the problem, isn't it? If people aren't willing to pay what amounts to a cup of coffee a month for a service they rely on daily, how are companies supposed to build a sustainable business without raising money?
As a customer, what I can do is compare with the competition. Padloc is more expensive than basically every other option out there. And as far as we can tell, Bitwarden was already running privately before this VC round (which seems aimed at expanding their offerings past password management) which doesn't seem to point to it being unprofitable at its current price point.
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It is fairly no frills. But they're gonna have to add some frills if they want to use up that $100M
They could try and replicate most of the keybase features. Use FOSS to market it and sell a hosted version. That is the only direction which I think could charitably use this $100m productively.
- They have a hosted/managed version with a free tier and a paid tier. Paid adds things like MFA and support for orgs. The more you pay, the enterprisey-er the org support gets.
- There's also a self-hosted version which follows a very similar scheme. You can start out for free, but if you want things like MFA or a self-hosted org, you're paying the Warden.
If you're a Bitwarden user and this doesn't worry you, you haven't been paying attention to the history of almost every company that has accepted VC funds. It doesn't matter how well intentioned the founders are - once you accept that kind of money, it's not your product anymore. You are now in the business of making money, nothing else, and those skewed incentives will start bleeding into their product and business…
Argh. If only there was a decent cloud-based open source alternative that worked on Windows, Linux, iOS, macOS, Firefox and Chrome.