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A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by diebeforei485 »

scarface74 wrote: post #12

I have a larger issue that no one addressed. There has to be some type of special software for the medical profession that allows you to take a picture on your phone that is not stored on your phone and that you send to the doctor.

> There has to be some type of special software for the medical profession that allows you to take a picture on your phone that is not stored on your phone and that you send to the doctor.

No, you shouldn't have to use some special software to take a picture. Taking a photo with your phone's camera app should never trigger an account suspension.

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Post by greendestiny_re »

dgfitz wrote: post #247
mulmen wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Puritans. We “banned” alcohol for 13 years. America’s greatest battle is with our dark religious past. We claim to be secular but really it’s an aspiration.

> America’s greatest battle is with our dark religious past. Apparently you’ve never been to Baltimore. There is no dark religious past haunting that city, just corrupt politicians.

Why don't you petition the government for a redress of grievances and oust them? It's an unlimited right guaranteed by the First Amendment that can remove tyrants without causing harm.

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Post by vorpalhex »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #82
mulmen wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Puritans. We “banned” alcohol for 13 years. America’s greatest battle is with our dark religious past. We claim to be secular but really it’s an aspiration.

I'm an atheist, and I intensely disagree with the sexualisation of everything in our society dressed as a new sexual revolution, and see it as a direct effect of capitalism. What say you

Still puritanism. Being an atheist doesn't mean you can't form bad beliefs.

We are talking an adults private photos, not a billboard on the freeway.

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Post by anon291 »

ISL wrote: post #153
ugjka wrote: post #71

> Not only did he lose emails, contact information for friends and former colleagues, and documentation of his son’s first years of life, his Google Fi account shut down, meaning he had to get a new phone number with another carrier. Without access to his old phone number and email address, he couldn’t get the security codes he needed to sign in to other internet accounts, locking him out of much of his digital life.…

One solution to many of these concerns is a periodic backup (via Takeout) of your Google account.

Do you have any suggestions for open-source Android backup solutions that can back up everything? Because I'm having a hard time finding any.

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Post by MarchKilroy89 »

hosteur wrote: post #175
ISL wrote: post #153

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One solution to many of these concerns is a periodic backup (via Takeout) of your Google account.

How do you automate this for daily backups?

Automating daily Google Takeout requests is exactly the sort of behaviour that I fear would trigger an account ban at some indeterminate future date. There are just too many unknown unknowns for me with Google now. Their ecosystem is, and has been for a while, personally relegated to burner account status.

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Post by sandworm101 »

happyopossum wrote: post #286
sandworm101 wrote: post #268

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7000$ is a pitance. Maybe this case is simple, but many will not be. Say they raid a house and confiscate a hard drive. Encrypted or not, that is going to be a huge thing. Arguments will be made about whether anything incriminating was stored on that drive. Just google the cost of a forensic expert witness. Both sides will need one. Such costs are actually why so many police agencies are backing off of CP investigati…

The reference to $7k isn’t to prosecute a CP case, it was to sue google to reinstate his account so he could get his digital life back.

Which would involve defending his case. The defense's budget has to be in 5he same league as the prosecution.

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Post by Spooky23 »

judge2020 wrote: post #49
chasil wrote: post #35

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The article mentions two independent instances of this process within Google, where appeal is not possible even with a police report that completely exonerates the suspect. It sounds to me as if a class action lawsuit is the most appropriate remedy for the unfortunates who are caught in this predicament. Their only problem is finding each other. For the rest of us, it is unwise to use cloud storage for photos, for se…

They don’t block CSAM because “it’s illegal” - in fact, they can’t be forced to do it without it breaking your 4th amendment rights. Instead, all CSAM reporting and blocking is done at-will by these companies, and some don’t participate (Apple[0]), so it’s a policy decision by these companies. I imagine unblocking someone due to them being exonerated by a government entity is legally risky - perhaps doing so would be…

Google isn’t the government, they are a third party who you provide data to. 4th amendment doesn’t apply.

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Post by MrDresden »

mysterydip wrote: post #278
scarface74 wrote: post #240

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My pictures and videos are synced to iCloud, Google Photos, and MS OneDrive. My photos are synced to Amazon Drive too.

Do you use the same email or 2FA for all of those? If so, you still have a potential single point of failure if that provider decides to ban your account.

It is unlikely that both the email and 2FA will fail you at the same time, unless perhaps you are using gmail and Google authenticator (though I am not sure how much authenticator is tied to your Google identity as I don't use it).

Use email, phone and app 2FA plus printable 2FA codes, and you'll always have a way.

Frankly if all of these can be made inaccessible in one go then the setup was mighty flawed to begin with.

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Post by Banana699 »

isodev wrote: post #45
mike_hock wrote: post #20

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Welcome to fascism. A private company is the de-facto judge, jury and executioner because it owns half the infrastructure you live your life on.

With the flick of a switch, they can deploy this technology to a global scale and way beyond protecting children. Imagine the feature propagating to their Chrome browser or their smart speakers "listening in" on what's happening in your home to "prevent" crimes by sending the cops whenever you raise your voice or say "the wrong things." This kind of power should not be in the hands of a single company. Edit: I recent…

>I recently read this book called "The Every"

Reminds me of another "Social Media Corp Gone Bizarrely Crazy" plot that I read recently, The This, by Adam Roberts. You won't anticipate how Crazy the social corp in question goes till you're halfway.

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Post by omgrusrs »

soraminazuki wrote: post #15

> A Google spokeswoman said the company stands by its decisions, even though law enforcement cleared the two men. Wow. Just wow. This is worse than the usual Google's automated screw-ups. In this case, Google was notified of the issue by the NYT. Yet they actively chose to continue to screw over their victims just because they can. > In a statement, Google said, “Child sexual abuse material is abhorrent and we’re com…

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