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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by threeseed »

tomc1985 wrote: post #243
threeseed wrote: post #97

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> Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook a) No evidence they are dying. All we have is a single quarter's result i.e. statistically meaningless. b) No evidence that staying true to the original Facebook is the best strategy. Unquestionably, Stories has been a popular feature in both Instagram and Facebook ecosystems and perhaps certain features from TikTok will be the same. But there is plenty of evide…

There's an army of users out there accustomed to and just simply want to see what their friends are up to and posting. Are they as sexy as the bajillion TikTok users out there? No. Are they enough to build a solid business aruond? Yes. Would facebook ever consider stepping up to the plate that built their core business again? No, because Facebook management sucks. I don't give a shit about algorithmic recommendations…

> just simply want to see what their friends are up to and posting

People keep saying this is what people want. Show me the numbers that it's true.

Because when Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Tiktok, Youtube etc. all move to this model and stick with it the evidence is clear that it's not want people want.

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Post by kube-system »

recursive wrote: post #246
thorncorona wrote: post #237

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The silver lining is if you pay for it it pretty much will always taste decent.

Unless you like your burgers with barbecue sauce. That use case is bravely unsupported.

You’re eating it wrong!

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Post by thfuran »

pjmlp wrote: post #290
encryptluks2 wrote: post #280

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I doubt it. Facebook may have issues but they aren't going to disappear anytime soon.

Some of us are old enough to have been through Hi5 and MySpace....

Myspace was never a ~trillion dollar company.

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Post by beej71 »

poglet wrote: post #256
caseyross wrote: post #145

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It really is weird, isn't it? To have what was essentially a solved problem 10 years ago become... what you described. On Facebook/Instagram/Twitter/LinkedIn, I still have tons of people I'd be interesting in passively keeping up with. Maybe even actively, sometimes. But all that latent sociality is increasingly just dead out of the gate, seeing as I no longer use any of those platforms regularly. My closest friends,…

I agree. I setup a Discord server for a few friends and it turned out to be infinitely better then current social media platforms when it came to keeping up with what everyone was up to.

+100. I have different slacks and discords for different groups. One for extended family--we share pix there.

I sometimes post the same content to two groups, but it's pretty rare.

I do miss the broader reach of classic Instagram where I could follow friends without them needing to be in a close circle with one another. Lots of them are unwilling to join the chat.

But I don't miss it enough to put up with f---ing TikTok behavior.

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Post by mrtksn »

Bjorkbat wrote: post #95

This actually makes me pretty sad. For all of Facebook's ills, it did at least do a good job of keeping me connected with friends before it got weird. Same with Instagram. Twitter is fantastic because it helps me discover new people, new interests, new worlds, in a way. TikTok doesn't feel social at all. It feels entirely too performative. Everything on there is a performance. Everything is an act. Everything is simp…

Facebook was indeed very innovative, I loved it and I was fascinated by the things it made possible up until 10 years ago. I also made my first money by creating apps and selling them back in 2008.

I guess it's always more fun when the VCs pay for all that and all the fun evaporates when they want their money back.

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Post by trollski »

kristopolous wrote: post #259
civilized wrote: post #181

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> …unless perhaps… we build a social network on the blockchain Ah yes, the one thing that would be worse than the status quo.

Why don't you see, we'll solve the social dysfunction created by a commercialized monetized internet by hypercommercialization and monetizing it even more! There is no alternative! It'll be the end of history!

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Post by threeseed »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #265
next_xibalba wrote: post #50

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Where are you getting this information? AFAIK, 2Q22 earnings (and metrics) are released tomorrow. The whispers I've heard are that any loss of M/DAU is contained to Europe and is caused by Russia going offline.

Ah yes, the familiar "everything is Putin's fault" refrain. He's a bad guy and invading Ukraine is horrible, all the usual caveats. But Putin under every rock and behind every bush being responsible for every toothache and hangnail is getting old.

Russia bans Facebook and Instagram under ‘extremism’ law:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/21/russia-bans-fa...

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Post by kortilla »

pjmlp wrote: post #290
encryptluks2 wrote: post #280

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I doubt it. Facebook may have issues but they aren't going to disappear anytime soon.

Some of us are old enough to have been through Hi5 and MySpace....

True, but despite MySpace once being dominant, it’s peak scale was a tiny fraction of where Facebook is now.

MySpace was popular for some specific English speaking age groups mainly. Facebook is basically everywhere but China.

My parents who still refer to Google Maps as Mapquest are even on Facebook. It will take a pretty big screwup to flush out those types of users (not early adopters).

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Post by kube-system »

mycentstoo wrote: post #245
me_again wrote: post #218

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Apple would sell exactly one kind of burger, which is great but costs $20. The wrapper is rose gold or space grey. Only Apple-certified condiments can be applied to the burgers, and a packet of ketchup is $5. Each year the faithful queue outside for the privilege of obtaining the latest burger.

They would also stop providing plates with the meal. They would be available for an additional charge.

Well, McDonalds did that like ~70 years ago.

https://youtu.be/KultzqPJaJs?t=264

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Post by atq2119 »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #264
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

> Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Facebook cares a great deal about its users--advertisers. You and I aren't Facebook's users; we are the ore Facebook has been mining at a cost approaching zero for over a decade and selling at a huge markup to its actual customers. But now the mine is playing out. We no longer cost Facebook zero to mine and the advertisers are beginning to realize t…

> Facebook cares a great deal about its users--advertisers.

You're confusing users with customers. The customers are advertisers. The users overwhelmingly aren't.

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