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High property taxes are good

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Re: High property taxes are good

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What's the deal with Brock Whittaker's website at brooock.com, anyway? It only seems to have one page: http://brooock.com/a/property-taxes-are-good >. There's no home page, no list of other posts. Kinda disappointing, really, since I was curious to see what else this guy had to say.

sorry I just made this site this morning to post this article. it's just a simple node-http server! I don't write much :)

Re: High property taxes are good

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Funding local public schools through property taxes is terrible, and makes sure that kids from wealthier neighborhoods get better public schools. Kids are a special case; we even expect people without kids to pay for kids. Public education should be uniform and high-quality, not dependent on local political dynamics and neighborhood wealth (and wealth disparities.)

Where does it happen like that? I. California we stopped local school funding with Serrano v Priest 50 years ago

Re: High property taxes are good

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Funding local public schools through property taxes is terrible, and makes sure that kids from wealthier neighborhoods get better public schools. Kids are a special case; we even expect people without kids to pay for kids. Public education should be uniform and high-quality, not dependent on local political dynamics and neighborhood wealth (and wealth disparities.)

Where does it happen like that? I. California we stopped local school funding with Serrano v Priest 50 years ago

Texas, but its more complex because we distribute tax revenue from wealthy districts to less wealthy districts. Its imperfect, to say the least.

Re: High property taxes are good

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Why does grandpa get to live in a two bedroom apartment in the LES during retirement when so many other people can't afford it despite working for a living ? If he owns, you'd think that he could sell the two bedroom and downgrade to a one bedroom to keep the monthly cost down. Or even a studio. But at some point it's an incredibly desirable, expensive neighborhood and I'm not sure anyone deserves the privilege to li…

> I'm not sure anyone deserves the privilege to live where they want as long as they want. You'll grow older and possibly understand. There are things that must be experienced, they can't be learned in any other way.

Great! I'd like to experience living until old age and owning a tax advantaged two bedroom in Manhattan that has appreciated wildly through no effort of my own. Where do I sign up?

Re: High property taxes are good

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Here's a crazy idea: 0% for primary residence, 50% for income properties (rentals, etc.). Will it kill renting? Heck no, not for property owners who live in one of their own units, at least. It might affect individuals and entities who hoard and exploit people, though.

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Re: High property taxes are good

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There is so much incompetence and political game playing regarding property taxes. I work in commercial real estate development. We negotiated a TIF district in a small midwestern town to help redevelop their vacant mall. In theory, if we could redevelop the mall and fill it with new stores, the sales taxes and property taxes from this growth would greatly benefit the city over the long term and help finance this ris…

In theory, decentralized government delegating various decisions closer to the people allows for more oversight and flexibility. In practice, in most places the oversight doesn't happen and just results in local politicians doing what they want, and simply enforcing a one-size-fits-all rule of law would be an improvement.

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I don’t think that’s a meaningful difference. It would take an extreme property tax to actually incentivize an empty field over productive use of that space. It might in theory make a difference when considering replacing a 40 story building with a 42 story one, but in practice you really don’t see that kind of construction project. In that context pushing for larger jumps before replacement might actually be economi…

Have you ever seen a flat parking lot in the downtown of a US city? Low property tax (because it's unimproved) plus real estate speculation.

You might be surprised just how profitable those parking lots can be.

Putting in a 10 to 25+ million dollar multiple level parking garage can pay off, but only if there is enough demand for it and you can get zoning permission.

Re: High property taxes are good

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property taxes are terrible for old people. you should be able to buy a reasonable amount of land tax free. USA has about 2.5 billion acres. 1/4 acre per person in an average area tax free is reasonable.

Just allow the elderly to accrue property/land tax debts against the value of the property, redeemed when sold/transferred or on death.

Boulder Colorado comes to mind with this idea. Live in the city for a certain amount of time and be over a certain age and your taxes are cut in half. Much better than paying the tax and the government giving it back.

Re: High property taxes are good

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In my region of northern New Hampshire, there are a lot of retired folks with houses rising from $200k-ish values to closer to $500k-ish values in the last 5-10 years. As such, there's a lot of discussion around lowering property taxes to help these retirees. In my opinion? Fuck 'em. Property taxes are a brilliant method of perfectly progressive taxation: you can always choose to live in a cheaper home. If your home…

Southern NH here and I would be interested to see if NH's eye-watering property taxes (when you only have one lever, it gets used a lot) have a similar effect as Chicago. Personally, being somewhat involved in city politics, while I appreciate your take, it does mean pricing people out of their forever homes when they've done nothing more than retire to a fixed income in the middle of a bubble. I don't have the answe…

I lived in Nashua. There is zero new construction going on, lotes are very big so there is a lot of wasted space. The result is that housing is too expensive.

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Doesn't Prop 13 also apply to commercial property? And second/third/30th houses? I think they smuggled a bear in as a rabbit with this one.

It does, but commercial property tends to change ownership and undergo construction more often. Therefore property taxes on commercial property tends to be higher. As a result, cities have an incentive to build commercial property over residential homes. The result is that the people working in those offices are competing for limited residential space (leading to high prices) and often have to settle for long commute…

Prop. 13 means that a commercial renter can rent out the land to one tenant after another virtually forever without the taxes going up very much at all (way below inflation). At some point it gets to a point where it is never economically advantageous for either renter or landlord to ever have the landlord sell... the situation is only disadvantageous for the city/community (which is getting far less in taxes than other places).

Remember that companies never die of old age.

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