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Post by scrollaway »

andrepd wrote: post #261
scrollaway wrote: post #59

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There’s probably a lesson to be learned here. People care about these features. Tell you what: I care about these features! And I also care about e2ee but I care more about all the things I can’t do with e2ee enabled. When it matters, I enable secret chats. In the early weeks of the war I used secret chats a ton to organise things (and I echo your observation that most people don’t know about them). But it doesn’t ma…

I care more that my intimate chats and pictures aren't stored plaintext in corporate and government servers for them to do god knows what than I care about some (cue soyjak face) heckin' stickerinos. But to each his own.

Yeah same, that’s why I have my intimate chats in a secret chat and not a regular one.

I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. With telegram, you have both.

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Post by rchaud »

dmix wrote: post #136
rg111 wrote: post #70

Many people are asking what are in Telegram that aren’t anywhere else? I can provide some answers. Telegram is my primary chat app. - It offers you to simply share an alphanumeric handle and you can connect with anyone in the world. I can do a voice chat or normal chat really quickly and easily. It is the only famous truly Instant Messenger there is. And I can do it without sharing my name (unlike FB), email address,…

> Emojis can only be PG-13 and "wholesome" (like banning gun emoji and replacing it with water gun- where I live no one owns guns - and guns are irrelevant to my politics and everyone else's). Telegram's stickers are really fun and creative. I appreciate stuff like this too. I hate being treated like a child. Sometimes I want to express "just shot me" with an emoticon, which a watergun ruins.

If you didn't want to be treated like a child, why not just post an image macro of whatever you want, instead of leaning on the app's internal clipart library?

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Post by DeathArrow »

nix23 wrote: post #276
hansel_der wrote: post #253

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agree. messenger privacy is not a function of technology unfortunately. the only real choice is which powerblock (us,ru,ch) can read your conversation

Since when is Switzerland a powerblock, however thank you!

Well, I am afraid Switzerland can read our messages and then jack up the prices on watches and chocolate!

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by savingsPossible »

rg111 wrote: post #273
rejectfinite wrote: post #148

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Yes, indeed. I do like both the Telegram and Discord clients. I use both myself.

I use Discord, some really good programming and AI communities are in it. But I use it in a container tab in FF. I have uBlock Origin installed. I don't trust the electron client to respect my privacy.

Could you share some?

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Post by gruez »

philliphaydon wrote: post #239
scrollaway wrote: post #233

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And what about all the times you talked about things on WhatsApp and Facebook didn’t start showing you ads about whatever? Confirmation bias is a hell of a thing; it works in many different ways. Personally over years of usage I’ve never had WhatsApp convos trigger ads.

Majority of people I talk to are Messenger, LINE, and Telegram. So I only have a few people on Facebook. The Business accounts 100% cause me to get advertising on facebook. For example last week the butcher I used to purchase from in Singapore messaged me from his business account advertising arrival of new meat. Boom I get advertising for meat products in Singapore and Taiwan. The issue is, I have only 3 chats happe…

>Majority of people I talk to are Messenger, [...]

>The issue is, I have only 3 chats happening in WhatsApp in the last 2 years that are non-business chats. And all 3 have had conversations resulting in advertising.

you realize that Messenger is owned by facebook? I find it baffling that you think the leak must be from whatsapp, when in reality both Messenger and whatsapp are both owned by facebook.

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Post by ufmace »

tootie wrote: post #181
ufmace wrote: post #64

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I use it for something like 90% of all my social interactions with real-life friends. IMO, Telegram has by far the best UI/UX of any internet chat app. In terms of stuff like group management, working perfectly on any type of device with any OS, including maintaining accounts on multiple devices and keeping everything synced between them, organizing large numbers of chats in the UI, managing notifications, etc. Video…

For me, the value of messaging comes 99.99% from availability of people I'm messaging. For work, it's all Slack. For personal it's SMS. I haven't seen a compelling feature in a chat app since 1997.

It's true that if nobody you want to talk to is on it or willing to install it, then it's not of much use. It's also a bit harder to find really compelling features for direct messages. Though even for DMs, outside of Apple's walled iMessage garden, it's hard to get stuff like high quality photos, videos, and audio messages, reactions, stickers, etc that work correctly for everyone on all device types.

Group handling is where all of the apps really shine though. Doing groups in SMS is basically garbage compared to pretty much any chat app ever made.

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Post by rg111 »

savingsPossible wrote: post #295
rg111 wrote: post #273

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I use Discord, some really good programming and AI communities are in it. But I use it in a container tab in FF. I have uBlock Origin installed. I don't trust the electron client to respect my privacy.

Could you share some?

I did not join them just for joining them. I am a Racket enthusiast, and the Racket community on Discord is really nice.

There is also a GEB reading server.

The fast.ai server.

Others are OSSU, Rust, MSFT Python, RL group, Yannic Kilcher, sentdex, Eluether.AI, Mark Saroufim's and Aleksa Gordic's ones, wandb, ConwayLife Lounge, Hugging Face, AI Art, etc.

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Post by asddubs »

tcfhgj wrote: post #282
asddubs wrote: post #123

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Signal's stance on third party clients is so disappointing. Telegram really has them beat there, although it has to be pointed out that Signal actually publishes server source, while Telegram doesn't.

Well,signal doesn't do it always as well, see the 1 year pause when they added cryptocurrency stuff

still better than not at all, but yeah that whole shitcoin thing made me lose a lot of faith in them

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by philliphaydon »

gruez wrote: post #296
philliphaydon wrote: post #239

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Majority of people I talk to are Messenger, LINE, and Telegram. So I only have a few people on Facebook. The Business accounts 100% cause me to get advertising on facebook. For example last week the butcher I used to purchase from in Singapore messaged me from his business account advertising arrival of new meat. Boom I get advertising for meat products in Singapore and Taiwan. The issue is, I have only 3 chats happe…

>Majority of people I talk to are Messenger, [...] >The issue is, I have only 3 chats happening in WhatsApp in the last 2 years that are non-business chats. And all 3 have had conversations resulting in advertising. you realize that Messenger is owned by facebook? I find it baffling that you think the leak must be from whatsapp, when in reality both Messenger and whatsapp are both owned by facebook.

Jezzz I wish I could throw up a facepalm emoji…

My point is because everyone I know uses other messaging apps, not what’s app. My sample size is very small because I’m not having daily conversations on what’s app. Conversations are happening in other apps.

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