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Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by freebuju »

cassepipe wrote: post #279
323 wrote: post #111

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Firefox is my main browser for many years now, but there are two categories of sites that I only open in Chrome: Video heavy sites, especially YouTube. It loads extremely slowly compared to Chrome. And has much more video stuttering. Probably Google is sabotaging YouTube in Firefox. Complex interactive sites, like crypto exchanges. They are slow and with many rendering artefacts in Firefox. Probably because they don'…

I was wondering if it was still possible to stream a youtube video out in VLC of if it has been made impossible

It has always been possible to open YouTube links on VLC. If you want to do so with even less clicks from your browser, there's a open with mpv extension. Can't link it now as am on mobile.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by thrwawy283 »

hnlmorg wrote: post #45

FireFox Containers are a killer feature for me. It allows you to run sandboxed sessions. So you can ostensibly make every site a private tab by default but have a small few sites persistent. Eg I’ll have a work group with GitHub, Okta, etc in it so I only need to log in once a day. But random websites cannot track me between sites. Couple that with DNS blocking of trackers and ads, and the web is actually a lot more…

That + the Temporary Containers extension can make every new tab a new container by default. I also use Container Proxy so I can route traffic from each tab through a different proxy if needed (mitmproxy). I've wanted to go to Chrome but Chrome has nothing like per-tab sessions/isolation. I looked at first party isolation but it's vague and doesn't seem like what Firefox provides.

Firefox is the only browser that can do this. Also Google's UI decisions are just unilateral and awful. At least with Firefox we can still tweak some of it.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by kivlad »

stragies wrote: post #168
commoner wrote: post #115

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I don't think Mozilla has a recent write-up (blog post) about the Sync Server. The most recent one I found is an announcement from 2020, which explains some of Mozilla's motivations: https://blog.mozilla.org/services/2020/09/15/the-future-of-s... But, as you mentioned, the current documentation is here: https://mozilla-services.readthedocs.io/en/latest/howtos/run... You might also find the unofficial Arch User Reposi…

The syncserver is the trivial part. The less-well-documented web of 5-8 fxa-yxzablgt services (FX-Account-server) that you need to also run is the issue. The docker github readme warns against anything but "messing around" type usage, and the last update there was 7 years ago. ( fxa-content-server fxa-profile-server fxa-auth-server fxa-oauth-server browserid-verifier fxa-auth-db-mysql )

I've tried this before, and you're right about it not being easy to follow, at least compared to previous incarnations. The above documentation is for a much older version, and the latest I found is here:

https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/tutorials/devel...

There's a lot of components directly hooked into Google Cloud that also make it difficult in terms of configuration. At some point I think creating an actual user's guide for this would be good for the community interested in self-hosting this on their own.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by robonerd »

sph wrote: post #239
alduin32 wrote: post #233

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> Our only hope is Mozilla takes their head out of their arse and start working on their browser instead of faffing about and making small, meaningless changes every release, but I don't see that happening any time soon. Tab syncing is a small meaningless change to me, but not to you. Some of these things you find small and meaningless could be important to some other people (for example, multilingual spell-checking…

> What do you actually expect from Mozilla by "taking their head out of their arse" ? Investing in their browser. Investing in an alternative ecosystem. Brave have added in-browser Torrent, TOR, IPFS support. That's what I would expect from Mozilla, trying to differentiate itself. Now we've lost the compact UI, got coloured themes for one release. What's cooking that's really exciting? What's the plan to retake some…

> Brave have added in-browser Torrent

Useless bloat. Dedicated torrent clients are made better and work better.

> TOR

Interesting, but the popular advice is to only use the Tor Browser. I don't know if that's good advice or not, but it certainly dampens my enthusiasm for Brave supporting Tor.

> IPFS support.

When I actually find a real use for IPFS, then I'll be able to form an opinion on it. Until then, it's just an obscure novelty to me. What can I actually do with it? Torrents and traditional websites together work for downloading/hosting/sharing anything I can think of.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by CJefferson »

lol768 wrote: post #248
neogodless wrote: post #179

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HomeDepot.com often won't let me add things to cart. The past couple months it has been working again, but there were a few months where I couldn't. This morning, I couldn't buy a key off cdkeys.com - tried two totally different methods, email addresses, credit cards. Didn't try a second browser yet but I'm not sure I am that persistent... A news site, I think the New Yorker, would only show the first two paragraphs…

> HomeDepot.com often won't let me add things to cart. The past couple months it has been working again, but there were a few months where I couldn't. I checked for webcompat issues matching this description and couldn't find anyone reporting that adding items to the cart didn't work. I attempted to reproduce the issue myself, but HomeDepot block visitors from my location. > This morning, I couldn't buy a key off cdk…

What is the "webcompat project"? I just tried googling for it and there were some articles about it, but no page I could submit.

I can say I recently found I couldn't make a new account at 'wise.com' in firefox (had to switch to chrome), and an internal university website doesn't work in Firefox -- but of course, I can't share that page publicly, so there's not a lot useful I can do with that.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by boudin »

SaulJLH wrote: post #251
boudin wrote: post #29

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I wouldn't touch Edge because I still remember the days when IE was dominating the market. As much as I despise Google being the one now, I do not miss those days and do not trust Microsoft to do anything good if they were in this position again. So you can make fun of people concerned about privacy, but history proved there's a lot more concerns to have regarding Microsoft

I remember those times too, completely different group of management, and the way they've done business in the last near decade, has also been very different. Some throwbacks, but on the whole, vastly different. I've been watching, you clearly haven't. And aside from that, they're never going to be in the "same position", the market is entirety different.

I can see you've been watching their marketing indeed... Now I've seen Windows 10 and Windows 11, it doesn't really depict a different Microsoft.

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Post by formerly_proven »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #268
8organicbits wrote: post #32

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I'm always curious about the use case of having so many open tabs. Is there some context you work in where so many tabs are needed? Are you able to find already open tabs, or do you just end up with 50 hacker news tabs because you just open new ones? Do you actually look at each tab, or do you open in the background and never load them? Are you using extensions to make tabs management easier, like tree style tabs? On…

Tabs are just more concrete than bookmarks. Tabs aren't things I thought I would want to revisit in the future that I went out of my way to save to a list of such things that I will never visit again. Rather, tabs are even more useful than that: things I was actually doing adjacent to the thing I was doing right next to it. There's a spatial element to it. Nothing compares to tabs. Especially not browser history whic…

Yep, by using multiple windows (one per project/topic) I get a nice spatial relationship between tabs and they're just as easy to search as bookmarks.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by paulryanrogers »

lol768 wrote: post #244
sph wrote: post #30

I honestly want to ditch Firefox and try a Chromium browser for a minute [1], but I'm stuck on Firefox because it's the only one with a killer feature: send a tab to/from iOS and my Linux desktop. I skip Chrome and Edge for privacy reasons, Brave have a crappy and buggy sync feature that I don't know what OSes it supports, but not my combination. Can't send tabs with them. Vivaldi doesn't have an iOS port. Impossible…

> I'm starting to see broken sites > Our only hope is Mozilla takes their head out of their arse and start working on their browser Are you reporting these to the webcompat project? Mozilla is absolutely funding QA testers and engineers to check what's broken and triage issues that affect specific browsers and not others. They've handled 103k issues: https://github.com/webcompat/web-bugs/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is... A g…

There's no easy answer here short of governments forcing a browser ballot on new computers. Regular people just don't care enough if the web devolves into a monoculture. And businesses don't want to use standards when it's easier to just do whatever works in Blink.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by robonerd »

GeoAtreides wrote: post #290
robonerd wrote: post #270

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Firefox's address bar always seems to show me example.com/xyz when I want example.com, but shows me example.com when I want example.com/xyz. Furthermore, sometimes the "switch to tab" suggestion is at the top, and other times it isn't. If they picked one and stuck to it, I'd get used to it either way and be a happy camper. But the inconsistency drives me up a wall. I don't know how this compares to Chrome, I haven't…

if you want example.com, type exam in the awesomebar and example.bar will show up in suggestions, if, of course, you visited it before or if it's bookmarked. if you want example.com/xyz, type example xyz or example x or just xyz.

> if you want example.com, type exam in the awesomebar and example.bar will show up in suggestions

I just tried it. I have example.com in my history, and typed "exam". Example.com is the second thing firefox suggests. Before it, is a duckduckgo image search result page for the query "botanist", with an image titled "Young Botanist Examines The Plants In A Greenhouse Stock Photo". Firefox is picking up the "exam" in "Examines" and puts that result before example.com.

I don't really care which is first, I just want one or the other to be consistently first.

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