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> among the NPC class Normally people aren't so open about dehumanizing people they disagree with.
It’s a term that refers to those who blindly follow without thought, not that the person isn’t “human”. It really tends to bother a certain subset of people though, especially ones that fit the description.
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> Discrimination is a fuzzy word.. No, it's not. > Is-it discrimination to forbid trans-women to participate in the same sports category as bio-women? It is absolutely discrimination to discriminate between cisgender and transgender competitors. Whether it is acceptable discrimination is a value question, whether it is legal or permissible discrimination depends on the relevant law and rule framework, but it is unmis…
So, by this use of this word, it is discrimination to prevent (non trans) male athletes from competing in female sports.
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The sibling comment actually does a pretty good job articulating why we as trans people (surprise! I’m one of them) receive the reactions we do. It’s a fundamental disgust at the concept of a trans person existing, full stop. In an ideal world for these people, we simply would not exist. We challenge their expectations by asking to be addressed in a way that goes against their ideas of what gender, at its core, means…
> We challenge their expectations by asking to be addressed in a way that goes against their ideas of what gender, at its core, means to them. Nope, you're asking for a special treatment in an environment where 99.9% of people don't care how you want to be called. Not because they hate you -- it's because they're not there to fight for your rights. My name has at least 12 different ways to be pronounced in my country…
1. Antidiscrimination policies preventing trans people from being evicted from their home, fired, etc, for being trans.
2. The elimination of policies that prevent or seriously limit access to medical treatment recommended by professional physicians.
3. Basic politeness from peers and colleagues, who should use a trans person's preferred pronouns and name.
None of these things are achieved. Federal antidiscrimination laws have not been passed. States like Texas consider medical treatment to be child abuse. And people regularly deliberately misgender trans people in school and at the workplace.
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So...assume the most extreme views are correct and start forming our own personal thoughts based on this assumption. Just in case they do turn out to be correct. I'm just not buying that. Side note: I have yet to see a satisfying definition for this sense of the word "erasing". As best I can tell, it's just an emphatic way of saying "disagreeing with a position of personal importance to X".
If you want to see the TERF mindset, and I recognize that the word is thrown around too easily, check out Lily Cade’s speech against trans people. It does advocate for violence. There are also very real statistics and accounts of violence against trans people. The numbers are shy in comparison to COVID deaths, but you have to account for the number of people who do transition and do not hide it. Is this priority #1 i…
I'd recommend these books to start off with - two classics, for the historical perspective, and two more recent ones, that discuss the modern transactivist movement that's so controversial right now:
* Janice Raymond, The Transsexual Empire: The Making of the She-Male
* Sheila Jeffreys, Gender Hurts: A Feminist Analysis of the Politics of Transgenderism
* Julie Bindel, Feminism for Women: The Real Route To Liberation
* Kara Dansky, The Abolition of Sex
As if Netflix is not filled with woke propaganda already... Note: Expect sentiment downvotes in HN
Some examples? And could you please define “woke propaganda”? Asking because the term is used to mischaracterize a broad range of views by, ironically, large scale propaganda / fear mongering outlets.
Coca-Cola, Disney and others have recently been reminded that businesses are there (wait for it....) to make money for their owners!
Business should be professional and all about business. Politics belongs elsewhere.
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Is it OK to have sports leagues that exclude biological males in order to promote athleticism among biological females?
For me that's the only interesting discussion to be had here. Separation into female and male leagues were installed partially because of sex (so that it's fairer), but initially mainly because of gender (women must not do the same fun things we do). Then again, it is 'unfair' that Simone Biles has the physique she has that fits to her chosen sport better than mine; Michael Phelps likewise; Alex Honnold processes fea…
I don't know all the history of it so I won't make claims about how it started. But what you're saying does not describe the reality of highschool sports as I experienced it.
I was a competitive swimmer in highschool; the team was split 50/50 between boys and girls. We all swam in the same lanes of the same pools, swimming the same practice given by the same coaches. Virtually all of us were taught how to swim by the same woman. The only separation was the locker rooms, and the competitive events during meets. The events were the same, 100m, 500m, etc, but segregated by sex. The performance gap post-puberty was immense. The fastest girl on my team, an incredible outlier with Olympic ambitions, was slower than about 5 of the guys. If the sport were blind to sex, the team probably would have had a 90/10 ratio, rather than 50/50. This would be grossly unfair to women.
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> We challenge their expectations by asking to be addressed in a way that goes against their ideas of what gender, at its core, means to them. Nope, you're asking for a special treatment in an environment where 99.9% of people don't care how you want to be called. Not because they hate you -- it's because they're not there to fight for your rights. My name has at least 12 different ways to be pronounced in my country…
> Nope, you're asking for a special treatment in an environment where 99.9% of people don't care how you want to be called. Not because they hate you -- it's because they're not there to fight for your rights. You are framing this as "special treatment" precisely because of your ideas of what gender means to you. Honestly, I empathize hard with what you describe as "pissing into the wind." I'm misgendered on a daily…
I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.
on trans issues: one thing that struck me is how different views on transgenderism are in the US, for example, than my country. In my country, transgender actually FOUGHT for the right to NOT be counted as a man or a women, and finally won the right to be counted as a third gender, with the rights that follow it. That mean that, the slogans here are NOT, for example, that "Transwomen are Women" but instead, "transwom…
1 of the biggest issues now in the US is if trans youth should receive any affirming treatment. Even puberty blockers. Calling them a 3rd gender wouldn't change the sides.