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Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by lhl »

3np wrote: post #226
lhl wrote: post #214

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I personally try to avoid Nvidia dGPUs since I usually don't need CUDA and they tend to be a PITA even w/ DKMS drivers and are terrible for battery life. I think the thing with the currently available Vivobook Pro 14Xs (M4700/N7400) is that they're currently last-gen Ryzen 5000 and Intel 11th gen chips. Even though I'd like to try out the OLED display, I'd probably go w/ the G14 atm - Ryzen 6000 and also you get 1 un…

Hey, I'm the one complaining about the lack of options - the Slimbook Executive seems to check all the major boxes and it's the first time I hear of them. Do you have any experience or anecdotes with it?

It looks like the same Tong Fang ID4H1 chassis that Schenker Vision 14/Tuxedo InfinityBook Pro 14 use (also XPG Xenia 14 I believe). If you do a search online, Notebook check, YouTubers (including some Linux-oriented ones) and various subreddits will probably have reviews. Basically looks good to me but ideally for performance/efficiency I'd wait for the 12th gen refresh (this particular chassis is Intel-only, although TF has other AMD models).

Below 45W, Ryzen 6000 outperforms, and it's battery-life can be up to twice as good as Intel 12th gen in idle/low intensity tasks like web browsing though, so for a thin and light, my hope is to see a decent AMD model come out in the next couple months.

BTW, a couple years ago I did a review of one of the first 4800H Tong Fang systems (versions of this have been available as the Schenker VIA 15 Pro, Tuxedo Pulse 15, KDE Slimbook, and Eluktronics Thinn 15): https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/hunyv6/my_mechr...

It was pretty thorough and I answered a lot of questions so maye relevant still. Also, one of the things that I liked about the Ryzen laptops is that while it mostly wasn't possible to exactly undervolt, enthusiasts have done a great job documenting mobile Ryzen's power and thermal behaviors, and you can basically script it to behave how you want, when you want: https://github.com/FlyGoat/RyzenAdj/wiki/Renoir-Tuning-Guide

I use a toggle that runs `ryzenadj -f 50` for example, which allows full turbo/speeds, but hard throttles to keep my temps right below my fan hysteresis temp to keep it completely silent. This tends to be my favorite run-mode on battery (I have it attached to a udev script for when unplugged).

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by eatbitseveryday »

X-Istence wrote: post #64

Why only a single USB-C port? Almost everything I buy these days has only USB-C ports/cables/charging. It's gotten to the point now that I am increasingly frustrated with the fact that there are no good USB-C capable hubs that take a USB-C USB 4 and turn it into an 8 port USB-C hub. With a mix of 10 Gbps/5 Gbps/480 Mbps speeds. I can get plenty of USB-C to USB-A hubs, but that is not what I want.

https://www.caldigit.com/thunderbolt-4-element-hub/

Gives you power and three usbc.

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by lumost »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #131
yzmtf2008 wrote: post #113

Tangantially related, I remember reading the Asahi Linux wiki [0], and was shocked by this statement about Apple Silicon machines. It's fascinating that Apple has a reputation for being anti-libre, yet the hardware they built is arguably very libre-friendly. > This puts them somewhere between x86 PCs and a libre-first system like the Talos II in terms of freedom to replace firmware and boot components; while a number…

>yet the hardware they built is arguably very libre-friendly Well they're already in legal trouble for abusing their iOS market dominance with the new EU proposed legislation, they know the tides are turning against big tech, so they didn't lock down the MacBooks preemptively to brace themselves for what's coming, not because Apple has somehow now become a FOSS supporter. Before you applaud Apple for being too libre…

I suspect everyone is waiting for the news to drop that either a top of line ARM machine is released outside of Apple, or for AMD/Intel to announce a competitive ARM chip.

Computer enthusiasts have heard for ages that X86 is bloated, and that alternate instruction sets are better if only the tooling good catch up. Now that Apple is pushing ARM across the line, and ARM servers are becoming popular - folks want to see the linux ARM machine.

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by ezfe »

hakfoo wrote: post #58
p1mrx wrote: post #48

Do I understand correctly that this is capable of charging over USB-C, and includes a USB-C power supply, but the default charging cable is USB-C -> DC barrel jack? So you can charge over USB-C, but only if you buy a C-to-C cable and tie up the single USB-C port.

Maybe they figure people would rather use the C port for something else? I feel like a barrel jack may be more resilient, if you're plugging it in twice a day.

I've got a USB-charging laptop I plug in every day for over a year and the cable still clicks in satisfyingly, fwiw

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Post by ceefan »

silon42 wrote: post #284
ikurei wrote: post #259

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There is a DC barrel plug for charging too. The USB-C port is Thunderbolt 4. I think that means it should support DP too, but don't take my word for it. USB-C/Thunderbolt confuse me.

I'm more interested in DP alternate mode than full Thunderbolt...

From the specs page:

HDMI version: 2.0

USB-C Interface: DisplayPort (DP Alt Mode)

USB-C version: Thunderbolt 4 (up to 40 Gbps) [Intel only]

USB-A version: 3.2 Gen 1 (up to 5 Gbps)

Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to two displays with 4096x2304 resolution at 60Hz

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by riedel »

spaniard89277 wrote: post #248
riedel wrote: post #102

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It is only the trackpoint that locked me on ThinkPad. There is IMHO clearly a user base that would be willing to move away from Lenovo only if they could get an open replacement for that single part...

Yeah me too. Apparently there were other laptops (dell? hp?) with trackpoints too, but not anymore.

The Toshiba legacy is still around: https://us.dynabook.com/computers/laptops/portege/X40/X40-J1...

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Post by gnufied »

colordrops wrote: post #153
3np wrote: post #35

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> The biggest disadvantage seems to be that the screen is bog-standard 16:9. Bigger than that IMO is 14" @ 1080p. It's just too little for daily use for me. Framework are so far the only ones in this market segment who have ever marketed >1080p laptop displays AFAIK. I have a hard time understanding why there is such a lack of higher-res panel options across the market, even when seemingly all other relevant specs ar…

1440p is perfect for a 14". It has a close enough dot pitch to my 4k 27" displays, so that I don't have to do any weird scaling when connected to external monitors. My other laptop it 4k and it's a pain in the ass to tune it so that things are not too big or small across displays.

Isn't that too small for 14inch display though? You will have to use some form of scaling with that resolution I suppose?
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