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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by newaccount74 »

mardifoufs wrote: post #280
newaccount74 wrote: post #191

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... if you can live with machines that just come with the bare minimum RAM and SSD. If you get the Macs with the same amount of storage that the PCs come with, the $900 laptop quickly becomes a $2000 laptop. I wish I could get back all the time I've wasted helping relatives deal with their Photos libraries and backups just because they got the entry level machine with skimpy storage...

I've had an 8gb macbook Air m1, and it's honestly never been an issue even for dev stuff since my workloads just wouldn't run on my local machine anyway. It's much, much less of an issue than on my Windows laptop with 8gb of ram, too. As for storage, yeah 240gb is probably not ideal for most people but since I bought the air mostly as a lightweight device I can carry anywhere instead of a workstation (even though it'…

8GB RAM is fine as long as you don't try running multiple VMs or lots of docker containers. macOS is surprisingly good at dealing with limited RAM thanks to memory compression.

The small SSD is the bigger issue. If you use it as your main machine you will fill it up quickly and people then start doing stupid things like putting their Photos library on a USB stick or on an SD card, and that's just asking for trouble.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by cpuguy83 »

unfocussed_mike wrote: post #173
karlshea wrote: post #157

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What? It's a whole new tower with PCIe slots and everything, and was super well received. Were you still under the impression they were selling the trashcan Mac Pro?

I simply forgot that they made it. I forgot a lot of stuff in 2020 and 2021, like most people. But by extension I certainly don't remember it being "super well received", or I'd probably have remembered it at all. Either way: look at it. It's a tower PC. Do you think the current Apple trajectory has any meaningful room for that? What are people going to really be putting in it except disks?

"I forgot about it so it must not be great".

It's an amazing machine. It's an incredibly expensive machine, but still amazing.

> Do you think the current Apple trajectory has any meaningful room for that?

Are you upset that you think Apple is going to stop making something that you forgot they made, except there is absolutely 0 evidence that they will stop making it? We know for a fact that they are going to release a new Apple Silicon based Mac Pro. We knew Mac Pro would be the last thing they move over to Apple Silicon. Apple even gave a timeline when they first launched M1, and so far it seems to be on track.

Apple has been extremely pragmatic lately, backtracking on objectively bad decisions around everything from keyboards and ports to form factors.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by mrcwinn »

If anyone thinks Apple is not very serious about AR/VR consumer products, their renewed focus on creative professionals, intense workloads, and GPU performance seems to suggest otherwise.

Whatever the marketing out of Microsoft Surface, it's the Mac that has always enabled creative workflows. I'm genuinely more excited about the Mac than any other product, which I haven't felt or said for many years.

Nice work, Apple silicon and hardware teams!

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by scrumbledober »

QuikAccount wrote: post #90

This is such a random thing to complain about but I hate these Mac product pages with the animations as you scroll. I guess they are designed for mobile but I navigate them on a desktop using a mouse wheel and they always look super clunky.

the first time they did it i was like wow apple is so good at this stuff this is really cool. It's gotten very old and annoying.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by yurishimo »

NorwegianDude wrote: post #266
yurishimo wrote: post #137

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I'm convinced the design is a tradeoff to make this work in the datacenter. With the exact same footprint, racks of Mac Mini servers can be converted to fit these with very little effort.

In...datacenters? That's a strange usecase!

https://www.macstadium.com/datacenters

If you scroll to the bottom of this page, there is an image carousel with an example.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by skybrian »

areoform wrote: post #22

I would like to highlight just how much Apple is focusing on their customers and use cases right now. It seems that they're targeting products to what their professional customers actually want. And in this case, it's a 3.7" little thing that can process 18 streams of 8k video (fully specced out). That's kinda crazy, and they're doing it at a price point that's competitive compared to all of the companies out there.…

I don't know, "18 streams of 8k video" doesn't seem terribly customer-oriented? Is it something anything anyone really needs or understands other than "that's very fast?" How much video can you watch at a time?

I also don't see how the size of a desktop computer matters, other than as a fashion statement.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by criddell »

NorwegianDude wrote: post #194
otterley wrote: post #79

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Tell the game developers! They need to hear from you that the demand is there.

Giving Apple more power by making software for their products for free that Apple wants a large cut from doesn't sound like a good idea. Make games for Linux, and let Apple figure out a compatability layer to make it work on their products. That's the way it should be.

> Apple wants a large cut from doesn't sound like a good idea

It sounds like a good idea if it leads to higher profits. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all charge game developers similar fees.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by tonguez »

hughrr wrote: post #4

This is actually really cheap. Maxed out at £7999 is less than half the price of an HP Z with similar numbers configured in which it probably can’t even get near the mac. And it doesn’t need $1000 wheels.

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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by criddell »

otterley wrote: post #79
nerdjon wrote: post #15

More and more I see the M1 chips and I wish Mac worked seriously well for gaming. Would love too see something like Proton but for Mac (given up hopes for native support). I hate that I have my gaming PC and then my Mac for everything else. I have to wonder though what their plan is for the M2. Are they laying the groundwork for when the M2 comes out all of these variants will be ready at the same time? Or a gradual…

Tell the game developers! They need to hear from you that the demand is there.

Has everybody forgotten about Apple Arcade? It has all the hits like Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja!

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by e4e78a06 »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #184
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #108

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Not only that... > 20-Core CPU > 48-Core GPU > 32-Core Neural Engine for $3,999 is that kind of like... a bargain?

I have a 10-core CPU with a performance advantage of 23% over an M1 Max in Cinebench R23 (AMD 5800x) and a 1,280 CUDA core GPU (GTX 1060 6GB) that cost a little over $1,000 US total. UPDATE - Sorry, I originally listed this as a 5900x by accident. I need more sleep.

Cinebench R23 is a worst case scenario for M1 because it doesn't have high core utilization and sits in L2 cache. If you look at a broader set of benchmarks (SPEC) then M1 Max in laptop form is competitive anywhere from a 5800x to a 5950x.
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