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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by exikyut »

makeitdouble wrote: post #277
exikyut wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just thinking out loud, I wonder if this falls afoul of the GDPR for users in the EU in any way. This "access is blocked" position kind of leaves hanging whether data has explicitly been retained or deleted; so in scenarios where a user could demonstrate incontrovertible proof that they uploaded some information to a service and did not delete it, it would be interesting to see if the user could leverage freedom-of-i…

I think GDPR rules would be cleared with Google effectively deleting all the data, which could be their laziest solution to a legal request…

*Headdesk*

D:

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by matfile »

pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by burntoutfire »

pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

I'm not sure if Google can kill Gmail. If any major competitor takes over, they could mine emails for ad value, which would give them a large edge.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by p1esk »

throwaway984393 wrote: post #245
pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

> Just imagining the nightmare that would happen if I got locked out of my Gmail account (10 years of accounts) We think the things we've built up over the years are important, but really they're just digital sandcastles. The only account you have online that matters is your bank account. When everything else goes, it turns out it doesn't affect you in the future. You just create new accounts and move on.

The only account you have online that matters is your bank account

Can’t you just visit your bank office in person and reset it? Or if they can’t do it, just withdrew all the funds and create a new account?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by kitd »

ehsankia wrote: post #274
pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

I'm not sure what the situation described above has to do with Gmail and migrating off of it. OP was storing hundreds of videos, probably against Youtube ToS, to run their business. Pretty sure unlisted videos can't run ads either, so they were basically using Youtube as a free hosting service for their business.

1. Why would hundreds of unlisted videos be against the ToS?

2. OP didn't say the videos contained ads. And why can't unlisted videos contain ads anyway?

3. YT weren't complaining about ads anyway. It was "cyberbullying" in one video.

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Post by [deleted] »

ehsankia wrote: post #274
pembrook wrote: post #94

After seeing posts like this on HN for years, this one officially scared me enough to completely migrate off Gmail altogether. I’m in the process right now of removing my gmail from any online account. Pro-tip: if you use a password manager, it’s as easy as searching for your Gmail address. For all other accounts, I’ve been able to find them by searching for the phrases “verify your email” or “verify email” or “verif…

I'm not sure what the situation described above has to do with Gmail and migrating off of it. OP was storing hundreds of videos, probably against Youtube ToS, to run their business. Pretty sure unlisted videos can't run ads either, so they were basically using Youtube as a free hosting service for their business.

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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by p1esk »

ehnto wrote: post #166
Waterluvian wrote: post #141

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I’m not saying this is bad advice. It’s not a bad idea to reduce single points of failure! But without objectivity about how often this happens, there’s probably a lot of other far worse problems that deserve our attention.

It's a digital life equivalent of a motorcycle accident I think. The risk is catastrophic, so any incidence rate is enough to require being prepared for it.

At first I thought that losing access to my gmail would be pretty bad, but now that I think about it, I don’t see anything particularly troublesome if it happens tomorrow, let alone catastrophic. Can you give some examples?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by dotancohen »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #260
charcircuit wrote: post #234

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> The danger is that an advertising surveillance company that has leveraged its ad surveillance into hundreds of billions of dollars per year in revenue has access to (and uses!) 100% of your personal correspondence, today and every day, no maybe. There is nothing dangerous with being shown more relevant ads.

When I have the stomach for it, I click irrelevant ads which don’t reflect my interests. You know—out of curiosity—to spend their money. It’s astonishing how quickly a silly hat becomes literal violent propaganda. I mean, in the same minute.

  > It’s astonishing how quickly a silly hat becomes literal violent propaganda. I mean, in the same minute.
Could you please explain?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by charcircuit »

rendall wrote: post #264
charcircuit wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The danger is that an advertising surveillance company that has leveraged its ad surveillance into hundreds of billions of dollars per year in revenue has access to (and uses!) 100% of your personal correspondence, today and every day, no maybe. There is nothing dangerous with being shown more relevant ads.

You are correct, and if that were the end of it, people like myself who are concerned about it could rightly be labeled paranoid. However, the collected data create an intimate, detailed portrait of you. Data aggregators can know how old you are, your general state of health, where you have been, your interests, including sexual interests, your political views both expressed and unexpressed, your associations, your a…

>model you and your behavior more accurately than could your own spouse.

To me this is a natural thing. It makes sense that computers are better at remembering and interpreting data than humans. YouTube is able to recommend me videos much better than I could myself. I don't remember the names of all the people I like, but YouTube does.

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