Is this an unintended adversarial attack to some copyright classifier?
Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement
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Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just tested this myself. Got the same results as you while using different file names. Difficult to believe that Google has become so internally dysfunctional that it hasn't fixed this technical embarrassment twenty hours after first being being seen, and then five hours after being reported on front page of Hacker News.
At the scale at which Google operates, even if they fixed it within a minute it probably takes some time to test and roll these things out. Sometimes I wonder if people think that infrastructure for billions of people is some sort of magic where you push the fix button and magically everything's solved across the globe.
The faster the fix can roll out, the faster a breakage can also roll out. Move slower and break fewer things.
Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement
#293Always operate under the assumption that iCloud (Apple), Microsoft and Google will delete any/all of your data, with no notice, and for no reason. Because they explicitly reserve the right to do so in their TOSes. Not your computer, not your data etc. ( https://www.quentb.com/posts/diy-cloud-backup/ )
To clarify: Google isn't deleting these files. They're just "restricted", which as far as I can tell means they can't be shared publicly. It's triggering the mechanism to prevent people from using Google Drive as a file sharing service for copyrighted works. I think owners can still access their own files just fine. That said, I agree 100% that you shouldn't rely on a single point of failure for any backup. Data must…
In this case, that is correct. From my (and the project TOS;DR's [0]) interpretation the TOS is still in general worded in such a way that Google can ultimately say, "we feel this shouldn't be here" and remove it.
For the record, that is fine, legally speaking. It just is something that I think we don't keep in mind, until our Gmail login gets locked[1] and our last backup was 6+ months ago.
[0]:https://tosdr.org/en/service/217
[1]:https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement
#294All software has bugs; I'm not mad at all that this silly test case was flagged incorrectly. The truly infuriating part is "A review cannot be requested for this restriction." Translation: "We have no idea if you actually own this content or not, but it would be _way too expensive_ for us to find out for sure! So you're out of luck, but don't worry — it's all worth it so we can make sure children can't stream Marvel…
Disney robbed us, our children, their children, and possibly generations beyond that with their more-than-a-century copyright terms. I thought about posting this comment the other day and decided not to, but your mention of Disney+ stirred the idea in me again. We have so much modern media about Dracula, Sherlock, Cthulhu, etc, a thousand flowers bloom... new movies, new games, new art of all kinds. Disney & friends…
Really great points.
It also manifests in other strange ways that I'd summarize as killing our culture. Think of nursery songs as an example. Recall Little Miss Muffet sitting on a tuffet eating her curds and whey. I mean what is a tuffet, who eats curds and whey? The reason we don't have nursery rhymes in present day is that any of those songs are wrapped up in copyright and can't legally be shared.
The only saving grace about your Pong example is that game mechanics aren't copyrightable, so we thankfully have countless clones of Pong to play. Interestingly the same doesn't apply to Tetris, for some reason EA seems to have been able to succeed in largely removing Tetris clones.
Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just tested this myself. Got the same results as you while using different file names. Difficult to believe that Google has become so internally dysfunctional that it hasn't fixed this technical embarrassment twenty hours after first being being seen, and then five hours after being reported on front page of Hacker News.
At the scale at which Google operates, even if they fixed it within a minute it probably takes some time to test and roll these things out. Sometimes I wonder if people think that infrastructure for billions of people is some sort of magic where you push the fix button and magically everything's solved across the globe.
Sure it'll take time.
Google cannot have it both ways though. They have a habit of completely restricting all ways of appealing or contesting these issues ostensibly because they think their tech is so good that it isn't required (at least in the vast majority of cases), and yet we have people permanently locked out of their personal and work GMails for months on end (or indefinitely) and now being accused of copyright infringement for the digit "1", with a bold assertion at the end of the email saying "This restriction cannot be reviewed".
Google's become so big that collapse/disruption is inevitable.
Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement
#296what about an empty audio file four minutes and 33 seconds long?
Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement
#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
Update: It has now flagged the file with "0\n" in it. So it's official, Both 0 and 1 are copyrighted :) https://imgur.com/a/xMgh6Xn
Careful there. My law firm in east Texas happens to own the patent rights to a system and method of concatenating a plurality of 1s and 0s for the purpose of generating an encoding of a creative work, and as such you are in peril of infringing on one of my claims with your concatenation of 1s and 0s!
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Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement
#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe 0 and 1 belong in the public domain, at least under US copyright law - there appears to be a significant amount of prior art.
FYI while Drive and YouTube's Content ID systems operate based on copyright, they are not entirely bound to it since they only actually have to comply with DMCA requests (barring any lawsuits that claim Google has the resources to create automated copyright detection systems[0]). Even when claiming copyright, they can remove and block access to content for any reason they want legally. 0: https://www.nytimes.com/2014…
They theoretically are based on copyright, but in practice the way it works is a few trusted entities are allowed to submit content and claim it as their own. If you have access to a Content Owner dashboard, you can claim literally any content you want from there- you'll just be putting your access to that dashboard at risk if you claim content that isn't actually yours to claim and Google gets wind of it.
This is how movies and music are added to the system for copyright enforcement purposes- they are effectively uploaded to YouTube and never published (this is called an "asset" in Content Owner parlance)
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#299Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement
#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder if this is an incredible hash collision. hash("1") == hash(disney_movie.mp4)
Not the case, since it also happens with other numbers.
well as it turns out hash("0") == hash(pirates of the carribean) as well.
Not sure how Disney is finding these.