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Web3? I have my DAOts

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Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Commentators on crypto will simply have to get used to this - because it isn't an argument. > For that same reason, I think people can genuinely believe they're obsessed with web3 because of its inherent interestingness when in fact it’s because web3 has made them a lot of money very quickly. The nature of crypto-currencies means that you are free to invest in protocols you believe will make money - either by providi…

I'm wondering how big your bias is since you are making money (I'm assuming) and how negative you will become about it when you and if you join those who lost money?

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Indeed. I’ll gladly pay $20 to have a professional human in the loop when I transfer the down payment on a house.

Wires are often free. My bank (HSBC) charges me nothing for domestic wires, my brokerage (IBKR) charges me nothing for domestic wires, Schwab charges nothing for domestic wires, neither does Fidelity, USAA or Ally - even FTX charges nothing for domestic wires - even though moving USDC-ETH out of FTX and into your wallet costs $25.

> Wires are often free.

Do you have a citation for this? The articles I found online suggest fees are almost universal, with only a single bank (Fidelity) offering true $0 wire transfer fees to all customers [0].

0 - https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/banking/wire-transfers-wh...

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

#293

RE: Censorship You often see advocates of decentralization hail networks for being pro-immutability, battling censorship. How does it deal with data you absolutely do _NOT_ want to be shared and propagated around? I'm talking about things like CP, terrorist media, fake news, scams/frauds, and what not.

In most cases, the answer is simple: you don't. For example, IPFS "solves" this by allowing requests for takedowns per gateway. The upside of IPFS is that you can go after every host, the downside is that everyone knows what content you visit. The network still propagates the illegal content, so you end up with a witch hunt. It's probably a good thing paedophiles haven't widely discovered IPFS+TOR.

The “witch hunt” aspect is no different than BitTorrent, right? Or even just people repeatedly uploading the same content to various online hosts and sharing links via any channel whatsoever.

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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The thing I think driving Bitcoin is that all the other assets that can absorb billions of dollars in liquidity are throughly manipulated. A trillion dollars goes into Sovereign Debt. The government can issue endless sovereign debt to dilute that. A trillion dollars goes into the stock market. The companies on the stock market can issue tons and tons of new shares to dilute that. A trillion dollars goes into paper go…

Actually the opposite thing happens in the stock market. The shareholders vote on the board of directors and the board of directors pay the CEO mostly based on the stock price going up. One way they do that is buying back shares. Another way is buy making money via positive cashflow and giving dividends to the share holders. Bitcoin has negative cashflow, the only way it goes up is by more people putting money into i…

funny enough, high value art is used for money laundering all the time

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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NFTs don't necessarily represent ownership of the underlying asset. They're like minting a commemorative coin celebrating the asset, and only minting a single coin. The coin does not represent ownership of the asset. It's just...a coin. A token. Supposedly, the uniqueness gives it value, but if I decide to record a single fart, that fart is unique, but the uniqueness does not inherently create value. An NFT for the M…

> NFTs don't necessarily represent ownership of the underlying asset They don’t ever .

That’s not true. If I owned the Mona Lisa what is stopping me from writing a legal contract “whoever owns this NFT is the legal owner of the Mona Lisa”?

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Let's say everyone on the planet is Ethereum enabled tomorrow. What is the business case for the winery to use it in your example? I get that Ethereum or any other crypto can be another payment option for their customers. Beyond that what use does a winery have for a programmable substrate underlying its transactions with customers or suppliers? I'm not saying there is none but if you're going to rip on HN users, fra…

I’ll bite. A winery could sell ownership of wine stored or wine yet to be made. The purchaser, if sold via an NFT, could resell that ownership with no interaction with the winery until claiming the wine at a later date. This means both parties no longer need any relationship between the initial sale and claiming the eventual goods. The winery will simply be able to wait for someone to return with proof of ownership a…

Excuse my ignorance, how does the buyer of the token know it hasn't been redeemed yet?

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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But publicly traded companies don't dilute their shareholders away. Those shares either have to be sold (meaning the company takes in proportional amounts of cash, driving the value up) or issued as compensation (which you can't just unilaterally in a publicly-traded company). Your gold example is also very contrived because the futures market doesn't literally dilute away physical gold. As for Bitcoin: You're missin…

BTC futures moves the price of BTC. So you don't even need any BTC to manipulate the price of BTC.

No, you need real money backing a credit line and collateral. Same as in any other futures business. This isn’t a new correlation, it is society driving the value of society’s creations.

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Cryptos and Web3 are currently there where Web 1.0 was in the nineties.

It was silly to order Pizza over the Internet like it was laughable listening to a baseball radio transmission over the internet instead using a … radio. LOL

20 years later everybody‘s ordering food over the internet while watching Netflix.

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Cryptos and Web3 are currently there where Web 1.0 was in the nineties. It was silly to order Pizza over the Internet like it was laughable listening to a baseball radio transmission over the internet instead using a … radio. LOL 20 years later everybody‘s ordering food over the internet while watching Netflix.

This is a false statement.

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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The person you replied to said “crypto” not “Bitcoin”. They can convert their coins to an algorithmic stablecoin and make the payment in a single transaction with no price change.

So is Bitcoin no longer being pushed as a currency? Is that “official”?

As bizarre as this state of affairs is, Bitcoin is legal tender in El Salvador, who in turn have a seat in the United Nations.

That makes it an official currency: low transaction rates, energy costs, and wild fluctuations relative to other national currencies aside.

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