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Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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If it serves the public, it's a public service. Utility companies were private companies until people decided they weren't.

What companies would not be public services under that definition?

Ones that aren't natural or in-practice monopolies

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An excellent distinction. In the world of data with research & operations, I only very rarely deal with data that is intentionally biased. Counted on the fingers of my hand. Cherry picked is more common, but intentionally wrong to present things in a different light, that's rare. Well, it's rare that I know of. The nature of things is that I might never know. But most people that don't work with data as a profession…

Data reliability is highly dependent on the type of data you're working with, and the procedures, processes, and checks on that. I've worked with scientific, engineering, survey, business, medical, financial, government, internet ("web traffic" and equivalents), and behavioural data (e.g., measured experiences / behavour, not self-reported). Each has ... its interesting quirks. Self-reported survey data is notoriousl…

I've worked with a decent variety as well, though nothing close to engineering.

>Self-reported survey data is notoriously bad

This is my least favorite type of data to work with. It can be incorrect either deliberately or through poor survey design. When I have to work with surveys I insist that they tell me what they want to know, and I design it. Sometimes people come to me when they already have survey results, and sometimes I have to tell them there's nothing reliable that I can do with to. When I'm involved from the beginning, I have final veto. Even then I don't like it. Even a well designed survey with proper phrasing, unbiased likert scales, etc can have issues. Many things don't collapse nicely to a one-dimensional scale. Then there is the selection bias inherent when by definition you only receive responses from people willing to fill out the survey. There are ways to deal with that, but they're far from perfect.

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Bleedover between communities. My circle of friends are isolationists.

I am sorry, but I have to ask: why does "isolationists" sound like code for "people who are doing and sharing all types of illegal content and can not leak any info?"

I'm sure that is a thing, but my friends are not that exciting. We are just privacy lunatics and old fuddy duddies that study the behavior of corporations, governments and others. We postulate what countermeasures could be enacted to minimize the sprawling intrusive nature of the internet into our lives. We always seem to reach the same conclusion as Joshua. "The only winning move is not to play" [1]

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpmGXeAtWUw

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I am sorry, but I have to ask: why does "isolationists" sound like code for "people who are doing and sharing all types of illegal content and can not leak any info?"

I'm sure that is a thing, but my friends are not that exciting. We are just privacy lunatics and old fuddy duddies that study the behavior of corporations, governments and others. We postulate what countermeasures could be enacted to minimize the sprawling intrusive nature of the internet into our lives. We always seem to reach the same conclusion as Joshua. "The only winning move is not to play" [1] [1] - https://ww…

Ok, now I am wondering how you reconcile what you are saying with the fact that we are discussing in a forum that is maintained by venture capitalists who are not-so-indirectly shaping the minds and financing all these companies that are very focused on intrude even further on our lives.

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I am sorry, but I have to ask: why does "isolationists" sound like code for "people who are doing and sharing all types of illegal content and can not leak any info?"

I'm sure that is a thing, but my friends are not that exciting. We are just privacy lunatics and old fuddy duddies that study the behavior of corporations, governments and others. We postulate what countermeasures could be enacted to minimize the sprawling intrusive nature of the internet into our lives. We always seem to reach the same conclusion as Joshua. "The only winning move is not to play" [1] [1] - https://ww…

I don't get a reply link for rglullis so will reply here.

I am the crazy bold one of the group and the canary in the coal mine. You won't see any of my friends interacting on this or any other social site. I on the other hand email and make phone calls to everyone at every level of government, C-levels in corporations, investors, military leaders, scientists, influencers, etc...

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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I doubt anyone at Facebook is freaking out about Mastodon and setting out to censor all mention of it. It's probably just a keyword or link that tends to co-appear with other, actually rule-breaking content, and some automated system has learned to block it. Still, it does seem like the sort of thing that could get Facebook in trouble with a regulator if you squint at it.

As we say in crypto "its probably nothing"

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#298

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> In many scenarios that we experience every day, we would be better served by accepting censure over misinformation. No. Not at all. I refuse your premise. Not only you are begging the question here (what scenarios? Your example was terrible and I really don't think you can come up with a good one), I honestly worry more about those that believe this rhetoric than the "victims" of misinformation. Also, it's curious…

Hey, no worries, rlgullis. I get heated too. :) I don’t know if it will be fruitful to continue this discussion here either, but I appreciate your comments and I suspect that if we spent an afternoon trying we’d find our common ground was vast. Have a good one!

There are some things that - no matter how much "common ground" we have - simply can not be discussed in relative terms. Advocating that we all should be subjected to censorship and silence anyone who speaks against the status quo is one of them.

To think that is okay to have one all-too-powerful entity controlling information channels is stepping into fascism and totalitarianism. This is a lesson that we should have learned already: no possible good comes out of that.

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I'm sure that is a thing, but my friends are not that exciting. We are just privacy lunatics and old fuddy duddies that study the behavior of corporations, governments and others. We postulate what countermeasures could be enacted to minimize the sprawling intrusive nature of the internet into our lives. We always seem to reach the same conclusion as Joshua. "The only winning move is not to play" [1] [1] - https://ww…

I don't get a reply link for rglullis so will reply here. I am the crazy bold one of the group and the canary in the coal mine. You won't see any of my friends interacting on this or any other social site. I on the other hand email and make phone calls to everyone at every level of government, C-levels in corporations, investors, military leaders, scientists, influencers, etc...

Interesting. Follow-up question: how do you know that? What makes you so sure that you are the only one that is breaking out of the circle?

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post #281

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Loving, LOVING this fantasy world you're living in, in which a primary driver of a person's behavior at a big company is the esteem of friends and family, and, you know, not because the boss said so and/or ruthless thirst for profit and domination.

Your response is somewhat unintelligible... I was saying what is the impact (damages) if this guy can't post about his software on facebook to his friends and family. Do you even think this would be in the top 100 ways to crush the competition???

Yeah, we're missing each other somewhere. I'm just talking about Facebook's incentives here. It makes sense for someone who works for Facebook to try to deliberately crush Mastodon, because even if the risk of Mastodon beating Facebook is very low, it's not zero, and Facebook's pockets are so deep that it might as well, even if the risk is low. I'm not sure what individual guy you're talking about?
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