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How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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lwhi wrote: post #284
andy_ppp wrote: post #221

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I understand this might get downvoted and while I agree with the parent I also blame the contraceptive pill, dysregulation of hormone systems (various reasons), environmental toxins and the general malleability of people when it comes to sexuality at very young ages and for reasons we don’t understand. In my father’s generation the vast majority of men by the time they were 25 years old could grown thick beards now I…

It's dangerous to dismiss transgenderism to be the result of psychological mishaps caused by environmental mishaps. You're effectively presenting a transgender person as a second class person, or a mistake. You're also aligning the ability to grow a beard with being a 1st class citizen.

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joconde wrote: post #133
SunlightEdge wrote: post #109

On a related point, what I'm uncertain about are the reasons for the increase in transgender kids in the west. I understand there's been a massive increase in cases for transmen in the UK and USA for example. Is this because we can identify these conditions much better now? Maybe. I don't have the background to say for sure. There is a real fear in society though that woke schools of thought are a harmful influence t…

Alternative explanation: there have always been as many transgender kids, but they hid it because they knew they'd get bullied by everyone, including their own parents.

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narrator wrote: post #268
SunlightEdge wrote: post #109

On a related point, what I'm uncertain about are the reasons for the increase in transgender kids in the west. I understand there's been a massive increase in cases for transmen in the UK and USA for example. Is this because we can identify these conditions much better now? Maybe. I don't have the background to say for sure. There is a real fear in society though that woke schools of thought are a harmful influence t…

If you want to go deep down the rabbit hole here, break your brain, probably ruin your career and seriously damage your ability to interact with woke culture ever again, you can listen to an interview with the author of the book, "The Transgender Industrial Complex" in which the author alleges with copious documentation that the transgender movement is complete astroturf. He did deep research to discover where the tr…

I mean I dated a transgender person, were they being paid or something? explain to me what was going on there.

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Post by ushakov »

SunlightEdge wrote: post #109

On a related point, what I'm uncertain about are the reasons for the increase in transgender kids in the west. I understand there's been a massive increase in cases for transmen in the UK and USA for example. Is this because we can identify these conditions much better now? Maybe. I don't have the background to say for sure. There is a real fear in society though that woke schools of thought are a harmful influence t…

> what I'm uncertain about are the reasons for the increase in transgender kids in the west

Big Pharma marketing initiatives, as they have to sell hormone blockers and other drugs to help transition

transgender people are their revenue, even if someone isn’t actually transgender, but has doubts/insecurities, money doesn’t smell

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belltaco wrote: post #58
rvz wrote: post #51

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Plenty of examples in the article if you have already read it. Example of enforcing this with cancellations: > Even as students began scouring the words of academics, administrators and fellow students for microaggressions, the oppressive slights embedded in everyday speech, and found them, complacency ruled. which was later enforced... > When invited speeches from people such as Christine Lagarde, then head of the I…

It's neither new nor exclusive to liberals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Chicks_controversy

Well its not me who said this was new, nor did I say it was 'exclusive to liberals' or any particular side of the political spectrum. I just used the examples listed in the article.

Maybe you should direct this to the person who wrote the article at the Economist.

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Post by eulenteufel »

mopsi wrote: post #250
joconde wrote: post #133

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Alternative explanation: there have always been as many transgender kids, but they hid it because they knew they'd get bullied by everyone, including their own parents.

But that's not the whole story. Kids are also very malleable, open to peer pressure and easily assume identities that earn them acceptance by their peers.

Which is exactly the reason most children conform to the "normal" gender stereotypes.

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Post by atroche »

m0llusk wrote: post #169

How did garbage pop psychology jump from talk radio to what used to be a magazine about Economics?

Fwiw they consider themselves a weekly newspaper, not a magazine. It's been more than a century since they were focused on economics.

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Post by narrator »

pseudalopex wrote: post #289
narrator wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to go deep down the rabbit hole here, break your brain, probably ruin your career and seriously damage your ability to interact with woke culture ever again, you can listen to an interview with the author of the book, "The Transgender Industrial Complex" in which the author alleges with copious documentation that the transgender movement is complete astroturf. He did deep research to discover where the tr…

Cultures through history had genders we would call transgender.[1] Your source's references include "How The Jews Of Weimar Germany Ensured The Rise Of National Socialism" and "Plandemic Documentary: The Hidden Agenda Behind Covid-19". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history

The "Myth of the 20th Century" is a podcast that is banned on all podcast services because they will interview people on extremely controversial topics. If you play the game of "this person believes X and a crazy person also believes X, therefore they're crazy," then you shouldn't listen to this podcast and just go about your life as you normally would. This is only if you want to deeply question your reality, and possibly ruin your life by becoming aware of things that go against the mainstream.

Re: How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to everyday life?

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Post by andy_ppp »

lwhi wrote: post #284
andy_ppp wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand this might get downvoted and while I agree with the parent I also blame the contraceptive pill, dysregulation of hormone systems (various reasons), environmental toxins and the general malleability of people when it comes to sexuality at very young ages and for reasons we don’t understand. In my father’s generation the vast majority of men by the time they were 25 years old could grown thick beards now I…

It's dangerous to dismiss transgenderism to be the result of psychological mishaps caused by environmental mishaps. You're effectively presenting a transgender person as a second class person, or a mistake. You're also aligning the ability to grow a beard with being a 1st class citizen.

Nope, what you’re doing is totally misrepresenting what I’ve said. I’m saying if there are more effeminate men you’ll have on average more people who are transgender. Myself I can barely grow a beard and have man boobs that I’m trying to get rid of and hardly any body hair (yet my Dad has a full beard and hairy chest, I’m asking why is there this big difference in just one generation) but hopefully I still count as a first class citizen!
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