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Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by thewebcount »

athenot wrote: post #92
atttali wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey there! Thanks for your comment :) Here’s my take on tab groups (Safari) vs workspaces (SigmaOS): they seem similar, but they feel very different. e.g. • you don’t always see all your tab groups = no behaviour change, people will still pile up tabs they don’t need. Think of Slack: when you’re done with a workspace, you delete it. But if you’re done with a tab group, you just leave it there to clutter your browser,…

A lot of this functionality can be done by using multiple windows in Safari. Drag a tab out into its own window: boom! split browsing. (But in Safari I'm not limited to 2) I use that a lot for the same use-case as the "sub pages" here: drag a tab into its own window, then command-click to my heart's content. When I'm done, the whole window gets closed. (Also this is without even using tab groups) And Apple's Handoff…

Yeah, I concur. Furthermore, I can use macOS's spaces for different workspaces and put different browser tabs and windows into different spaces for work, fun, etc.

To the OP: I will say that seeing the tree of how I got to the current page sounds interesting if I'm researching something. However, the vast majority of my browsing is just that – browsing. I'm not usually researching something. (So maybe I'm not the target audience?)

> You can rename your pages to organize yourself and find them faster

Yeah, I don't want a tool that makes me do more work. I'm never going to rename my pages, just like I'm not going to tag all of my photos or emails or files so that the Find function can be more efficient. I just don't have time for that. If there's no way to automate it, then I don't need that feature.

Also, just want to say that your logo looks an awful lot like Apple's SiriShortcuts app logo. Might be worth changing it up.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by lucasfmsarmento »

hey there! SigmaOS does look amazing and like something I'd use. one question though.... I wasn't able to create a new window, I use multiple screens. when I do "cmd+n" it prompts me to try "W" which creates a new Workspace. Am i missing anything here? or it is impossible to use SigmaOS on different screens at the same time.

Thanks and congrats on the launch!

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by ignoramous »

pembrook wrote: post #205

Interesting take on a problem that many startups are trying to solve from different angles. As everybody moves to web-based, cloud-native Saas tools, we're starting to run into the issue that browsers just aren't built for complex work in the same way MacOS/Windows are. As you can see already in the comments here, the most savvy, HN-type users have come up with a variety of convoluted and hacky solutions to this prob…

> ...reminiscent of that hilarious Dropbox launch comment, on Linux you can set up a system like this yourself quite trivially.

Well, to be fair, folks on news.yc weren't exactly the kind of first adopters dropbox was after. The same is true for SigmaOS (and other YC companies in the browser space like usemotion.com, mighty.app, and insightbrowser.com). I mean, imagine a superhuman.com launch hn...

Besides, many here question the price point given the alternatives (which is a valid concern). That said, the prevalent sentiment on news.yc has never been an indicator of any company's success. news.yc is a place for tech-savvy enthusiasts, who ironically, react with hostility towards not-yet-obvious disruptions. And to be fair, most disruptions start out on the fringes. And by definition, very few believe in fringe.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by smoldesu »

threatofrain wrote: post #286
AkshitGarg wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tab groups also exist in chrome, brave and edge (was behind a flag last time I checked), and presumably other chromium-based browsers too

Since the app is launching on Apple's ecosystem, it also makes sense to compare to Safari where we're already getting tab groups and syncing. Plus, there's the usual stuff of password management, email aliases (nice for not giving out your email), and private relay, which is basically TOR lite for grandma. And what about ad blocking?

Normally we don't compare real browsers to Safari for fear of completely embarrassing it. Are you suggesting we pull the gloves off? Monterey has given me all sorts of gripes that I'd love to get out, I was just hoping an HN thread wouldn't be the place.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by [deleted] »

pembrook wrote: post #205

Interesting take on a problem that many startups are trying to solve from different angles. As everybody moves to web-based, cloud-native Saas tools, we're starting to run into the issue that browsers just aren't built for complex work in the same way MacOS/Windows are. As you can see already in the comments here, the most savvy, HN-type users have come up with a variety of convoluted and hacky solutions to this prob…

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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by sauravmitra »

lucasfmsarmento wrote: post #292

hey there! SigmaOS does look amazing and like something I'd use. one question though.... I wasn't able to create a new window, I use multiple screens. when I do "cmd+n" it prompts me to try "W" which creates a new Workspace. Am i missing anything here? or it is impossible to use SigmaOS on different screens at the same time. Thanks and congrats on the launch!

Heya, glad you're liking it! You can't open multiple windows of SigmaOS at the moment. This is something we would like to add especially for users using multiple monitors.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by Grustaf »

smoldesu wrote: post #294
threatofrain wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since the app is launching on Apple's ecosystem, it also makes sense to compare to Safari where we're already getting tab groups and syncing. Plus, there's the usual stuff of password management, email aliases (nice for not giving out your email), and private relay, which is basically TOR lite for grandma. And what about ad blocking?

Normally we don't compare real browsers to Safari for fear of completely embarrassing it. Are you suggesting we pull the gloves off? Monterey has given me all sorts of gripes that I'd love to get out, I was just hoping an HN thread wouldn't be the place.

Safari is not a real browser? I've been using it exclusively for half almost a decade, working as a developer and in finance. What have I missed?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by lucasfmsarmento »

sauravmitra wrote: post #296
lucasfmsarmento wrote: post #292

hey there! SigmaOS does look amazing and like something I'd use. one question though.... I wasn't able to create a new window, I use multiple screens. when I do "cmd+n" it prompts me to try "W" which creates a new Workspace. Am i missing anything here? or it is impossible to use SigmaOS on different screens at the same time. Thanks and congrats on the launch!

Heya, glad you're liking it! You can't open multiple windows of SigmaOS at the moment. This is something we would like to add especially for users using multiple monitors.

cool, I understand that the problem of having multiple browser windows open is exactly what you guys are trying to address... but it is crucial when using multiple screens

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by sauravmitra »

lucasfmsarmento wrote: post #298
sauravmitra wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heya, glad you're liking it! You can't open multiple windows of SigmaOS at the moment. This is something we would like to add especially for users using multiple monitors.

cool, I understand that the problem of having multiple browser windows open is exactly what you guys are trying to address... but it is crucial when using multiple screens

Yup, totally get you. We'll be picking this task up soon hopefully.

You can help speed this process up by reporting the issue using the question mark at the bottom-left of the app. It increases the count of how many of our users need this so we can prioritize our tasks :)

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by garyrob »

sauravmitra wrote: post #210
pembrook wrote: post #205

Interesting take on a problem that many startups are trying to solve from different angles. As everybody moves to web-based, cloud-native Saas tools, we're starting to run into the issue that browsers just aren't built for complex work in the same way MacOS/Windows are. As you can see already in the comments here, the most savvy, HN-type users have come up with a variety of convoluted and hacky solutions to this prob…

Damn, that's a great breakdown, and discusses a lot of the things we've been thinking about and what led us towards building SigmaOS the way we are. I'm actually implementing the Chrome extensions API, so SigmaOS will have the same extensions available as Chrome :D

I probably can’t see SigmaOS becoming my main browswer without being able to use some basic extensions like Instapaper. Do you have a timeline for extensions?
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