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Can you give any insight into the solution you’re using to achieve this? I’ve got some noisy gadgets on my network that I want to cordon off, but I’m not sure where to begin.
Dedicated SSID(s) with that/those SSID configured as a guest network goes pretty far. I happen to use Ubiquiti gear, but most any router is likely capable of creating a dedicated guest SSID (or multiple). That covers wireless devices (which is all the IoT stuff that I have). The one aggravation I had was trying to get the Chromecasts to work correctly (where I wanted to be able to cast from a machine on the main LAN…
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I think the Tile bit is a non sequitur. There’s no need for a Tile tag to create a network connection to a remote serve. That functionality could have been implemented without Sidewalk (eg Apple’s Find My is completely differently), so I’m dismissing that justification from Amazon. I have a few Tile tags, too, and I hope their new Amazon partnership makes them start being useful. It didn’t need Sidewalk though.
When a Tile device associates to another device that detects it, that device has to send a network packet to the cloud that says that it found a Tile with a certain serial number. That’s using your network/your bandwidth to transmit proprietary data about someone else’s property, without asking your permission. That’s exactly the same in kind, just maybe not in degree. New Tile devices can play a sound on command. If…
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I've seen this, too. Apple: Their device: "Hi, I'm an AirTag! This is my serial number!" Your device: "hey Apple, I was at (X, Y) when I saw this serial number." Amazon: Their device: "Hi, can I send traffic through your network?" Your device: "sure, buddy!" They're so fundamentally different that I pretty much assume a bad faith argument from people who say they're similar.
> Apple: Their device: "Hi, I'm an AirTag! This is my serial number!" Your device: "hey Apple, I was at (X, Y) when I saw this serial number." > Amazon: Their device: "Hi, can I send traffic through your network?" Your device: "sure, buddy!" I think you're mis-characterizing Amazon here. It's not "can I send traffic through your network", it's "can you pass this message to Amazon for me? Amazon will pass it on to my…
how is that not unfettered access to whatever the device wants via the manufacture's server?
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The apple airtag devices do the same thing. They can get online via any apple device. Not sure if that applies to other FindMy devices though. I hope it does =)
When this tech falls into the wrong hands we are all so screwed.
I've seen comments on Youtube that seemed shocked that Youtube could trace comments to an IP address! We are deep in it now, approaching a point where the barrier to entry to understand how the technology functions is too much even for capable specialists to fully comprehend the rampant abuse happening at this very moment. How often do we as technical people find out about some new god damned thing some god damned tech company is doing to steal our data or otherwise exploit us as "customers"? And even people who are technically capable of grasping the depth of the power of this technology are still busy hammering away on their keyboards to make it more powerful, having never had to worry about violent psychopaths with political power. We are creating a truly terrifying nightmare of brutal suffering for our grandchildren or their children.
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"You can help me, I can help you". My smart lights work where I don't have connectivity, but you do, and your tile tracker works where you don't have connectivity, but I do. It's really quite similar to Apple's Find My network. I just wish this was going to some open collective where everyone could benefit, rather than just Amazon customers...
Helium is exactly what you describe. People deploy APs that provide coverage and in turn get fractions of pennies for transferring data from random peoples devices. https://www.helium.com/
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#299Article doesn't mention it, but this is how you opt-out (there are others but this one has screenshots). https://www.tomsguide.com/reference/what-is-amazon-sidewalk Added to my list for the next time I'm on the phone with my parents, for our (weekly at this point) how-to sessions on "stopping the industry I work in from spying on you". I really, really wish product managers would understand the kind of ecosystem they…
To that I ask: what problem does Alexa solve?? Why does one need a device to switch the lights?!? or turn music on or off. How much is one willing to pay for a minuscule, incremental particle of convenience.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think Alexa users only have themselves to blame.
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Hah. Well, humans have easily predictable movement patterns right? Home, work, grocery store. Imagine wanting to move data from city A to city B, so they'd decide to do a Tinder match of a girl from City B to this guy from City A, so he'd visit her a lot and be the data conduit...
This is a terrific idea for a short story.