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Firefox Release 89.0

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by pjerem »

zschuessler wrote: post #260
fabioz wrote: post #169

I'm a long time user of FF. I really don't like the UI changes in this upgrade, but setting: "browser.proton.enabled" to false "browser.uidensity" to 1 (while using the `System Theme`) Seems to have done the trick, so, I can just ignore the UI changes (which is great)... fingers crossed in that this keeps working in the future. UI changes are very much subjective, so, I think that it's great that some people like the…

Thanks for sharing this. Before reading this, I was just about to install Chrome again for the first time in years. For anyone not familiar with how to edit the browser config, simply type in 'about:config' into your URL bar and have at it.

Going back to Chrome after years of Firefox is an awful move IMO. Maybe it’s time to try Vivaldi.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by hawski »

justinph wrote: post #18
toomanyducks wrote: post #12

I bounce between qutebrowser, brave, and firefox - could anyone who exclusively uses ff convince me to switch? I've always viewed ff as a solid fine out of ten, and would be interested in hearing more about any unique and cool features.

Multi-account containers are awesome: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers Also good to keep non-chrome browsers alive.

This and three extensions that make it even better:

- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account... - bit easier to manage, you can place a sensible button next to "Open a new tab" that gives you a menu to open a new tab in specific container, also easy to assign site to a container which is vital

- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con... - this makes a temporary container every time you open a new empty tab (if you open a tab from within it stays with the temporary container), when you close the last tab from the container it will remove the container after a while. This extension should not be used with tab syncing from the former extension if you use Firefox Accounts to sync tabs and stuff.

- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-a... - this makes it manageable to use the temporary containers extension. Because every time you open a new tab with new Google search you will see a cookie consent popover. It gets old fast, this clicks it for you.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by myfonj »

sharps1 wrote: post #272
pteraspidomorph wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your day to day experience isn't necessarily the same as everyone else's. It hasn't been long since "View page info" was confined to a hidden menu and all context menu labels were changed for absolutely no reason.

Can’t remember the last time I used ‘View Page Info’, I usually just bring up the dev tools and click the mouse icon to get to the area I want to see.

I find Page Info (Ctrl+I, [1]) dialogue pretty useful: especially list of all loaded media and information presented in Security tab is something that you could dig in devtools quite cumbersomely or not at all.

[1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-page-info-windo...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by _ea1k »

_Microft wrote: post #39
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

Sadly, I think there is some truth to the adage that departments ensure their continued existence.

I tend to agree. This is like the marketing team reworking the name, slogan, or logos every few years.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by dandellion »

BuckRogers wrote: post #155
anonymousab wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use niche or power user features frequently, then it can feel like almost every single update is reworking or removing a feature you depend on. Firefox updates are a constant stream of "1% of users use this feature so it's fine to do X to it" but it turns out that a lot of people fall into a lot of those small buckets at once.

The 1%, that was the excuse to delete my live bookmarks feature. Which was fine in a way because addons took its place, but that further pushed the 1-3% of users that knew about it to almost certainly doom it to 0.1% over time. No discoverability at all.

They also removed bookmark description. Little by little they're removing every feature I've come to like in the last fifteen years.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

pteraspidomorph wrote: post #111
mathw wrote: post #83

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Last major Firefox UI overhaul was... Firefox 57, the first Quantum release, in November 2017. It's had various tweaks since, but my day to day experience has been the same since then. This is not an absurd pace of UI change in my opinion. And yes it is a conceptually simple UI, but with the whole stuff around the web with security, permissions, tab and window management and how an awful lot of modern computer use by…

Your day to day experience isn't necessarily the same as everyone else's. It hasn't been long since "View page info" was confined to a hidden menu and all context menu labels were changed for absolutely no reason.

I've been trying to find that since it disappeared! Do tell!

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by FlashBlaze »

up6w6 wrote: post #207

I liked the new design but what always keeps me out of firefox is the performance. I dont know if its some UI trick but chrome just feels a lot faster no matter what the benchmarks says. ( https://arewefastyet.com/ )

Agreed. I've said it here before but the only thing which is keeping me away from completely switching to FF for personal use is YouTube stuttering issue. I've searched everywhere, updated all drivers, also ran FF in safe mode where all extensions are disabled but nothing. After every 10-15 seconds or so (not an exact number) the video skips a couple of frames. I have no idea why it happens.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by dandellion »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #59
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

UI design is like fashion design, often trying to catch your eye. Sometimes trying to be edgy or controversial, to provoke a reaction.

They've provoked a reaction on me. Now I actually bother trying other browsers in search for something better.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by [deleted] »

megous wrote: post #289
btdmaster wrote: post #261

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Unfortunately some of the Linux kernel mainline has questionable licensing too. [1] In short, [2] and [3] are probably linux-firmware territory in the mainline kernel. [1] https://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2020-August/0034... [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin... [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...

Some card's bundled firmware from 1996 that's not even compiled in normal distro kernel builds? :D

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