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Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by erikbye »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #278
NikolaNovak wrote: post #67

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I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such loud exhausts provide and in my experience they only stress and antagonize other drivers :-/ Curious where this idea came from. Some bike riders must also be drivers and it’s very obvious this isn’t true. Even when emergency vehicles turn on their sirens I can’t tell where they are until I see them when I’m driving.

In my country it is mandatory for electric vehicles to make artificial sound so they can be heard.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by erikbye »

snarfy wrote: post #97
NikolaNovak wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

Nothing brings out my violent psychotic tic faster than an asshole with a loud vehicle.

Perhaps you should get some therapy. Healthy individuals do not get that worked up over minor things like loud vehicles. It passes you and it is over. Or do loud vehicles sit outside your home all day and night?

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by erikbye »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #165
teknopaul wrote: post #117

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Road rage is a terrible thing, nothing brings out intolerance like a metal cage. Try to abstract it, see road rage as a thing in itself, don't let it in. If you get there, all of a sudden you don't mind what or how other people drive. If you don't get there, it's only you that suffers. That tic can't express itself in your self-imposed cage.

I completely agree road rage is a terrible thing; I agree we are all responsible for our own behaviour; and as drivers we should not allow such things get to us. But a needlessly loud motorcycle, particularly the kinds that "detonate/explode" on shifts/off-gas, will make me jump and annoy no matter what I'm doing - reading a book, having a coffee, mowing the lawn, going for a walk, playing with my kid, whatever... es…

This is wrong. Many bikes have pops and cracks like this stock, straight from the factory floor. So do not assume the owner went out of his way to make it so.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by galaxyLogic »

83457 wrote: post #139
NikolaNovak wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

I always assumed that the point of loud vehicles was to assert dominance by being an asshole. If people are annoyed and upset then it is working exactly as intended. You have provoked an emotion that fuels your ego and image of yourself as a bad ass that doesn't care about other people.

No not necessarily by being an asshole. By being loud. Animals do it too like lions they have a mighty roar. But they only roar when they are afraid. No? Why would they otherwise roar?

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by m463 »

leon_sbt wrote: post #152

Really interesting concept. I like the general lines of the bike. Looks really well thought out/clean sheet mechanical design. Two points of contention: 1) After putting over 40k+ miles on various bikes, I never once wished there was a self balancing feature to make it stand up on its own. At a stop light; I put my foot down; at a really long stop light, I put the kickstand down. If the self balancing feature can fun…

I personally think one failing of these concept vehicles is that they are clean slate... and too weird.

As an example, early electric cars and fuel cell vehicles were/are uniformly non-uniform. The GM ev1 had fender shrouds, and the that corbin electric vehicle had 3 wheels.

Personally I would like an electric bike that performed and looked like a sportbike.

related: I found it interesting that the look of sportbikes actually derives from racing rules. Originally racing bikes chased aerodynamics with long streamlined fairings usually shrouding at least the front tire. Then racing rules came along that said the fairings couldn't extend past the front axle, and that set up the look.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by m463 »

leon_sbt wrote: post #203
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #192

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>After putting over 40k+ miles on various bikes, I never once wished there was a self balancing feature to make it stand up on its own. At a stop light; I put my foot down; at a really long stop light, I put the kickstand down. As someone with 138cm height, All I ever wanted on a normal sized motor-bike is self-balancing. So far my options to ride a normal size bike is to convert it to three-wheeler with after-market…

You have a very valid point. I'm 5'11" so getting my foot down at stop lights has never been an issue; unless I'm dealing with a 450cc dirt bike. My GF is about 5'2 and stopping a motorcycle in traffic is actually a pretty big deal. She isn't tall enough to put her foot down, without awkwardly angling the bike. The only bike should could ride of mine is a 250cc ninja. The 400cc+ supermoto was way to awkward/tall for…

A friend of mine is a harley guy and said harley is making a bike that solves this by lowering the bike when stopping.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by ece »

salmo wrote: post #284
Animats wrote: post #255

It's neat to have all those powered degrees of freedom, but what problem does it solve? The BPG transforming bike [1] was a more promising direction. It could transform from a self-balancing Segway form for indoor and sidewalk use to a motorcycle form for roads. It looks like something from Transformers or the RideBack anime, but they got a prototype on the road. Now that had real potential. BPG never got that to to…

I think it's wonderful to see "pure R&D" these days. The days of Bell Labs, Xerox PARC, etc. are gone. Even NASA is so much more restrained. Focus on practicality leads to incremental change. But free research and aspirational (maybe impractical) goals are what brought us the revolutionary technology we rely on today. This is as kooky as Doug Englebart's team's work was at the time, and similar in the focus on the hu…

Augment?

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by tdonovic »

ece wrote: post #267
illegalmemory wrote: post #21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lx0ZJGgsFs Here is a video demonstration,

I wonder why it didn't make it to production, at least the self balancing and electric parts of it.

I think the key thing is yet. I bet we will see a toned down version of it, esp the electric parts not too far in the future

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by vincentpants »

seneca wrote: post #280
vincentpants wrote: post #241

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Homie, it has nothing to do with you or your work commute. Cyclists have every legal right to be on the road as a car and if a shoulder lane isn’t safe enough to cycle on then it’s safest and recommended and the law to take up a whole lane to ensure assholes like you don’t risk their safety/lives by trying to squeeze past them in the same lane. Best to just treat them as a car and try to practice patience.

> assholes like you Less of this, please.

Seconded, and thank you for pointing that out. Apologies for the terrible juju to everybody who read that. Nothing good comes out of outbursts like that, especially on the internet.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by pedalpete »

galaxyLogic wrote: post #294
83457 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always assumed that the point of loud vehicles was to assert dominance by being an asshole. If people are annoyed and upset then it is working exactly as intended. You have provoked an emotion that fuels your ego and image of yourself as a bad ass that doesn't care about other people.

No not necessarily by being an asshole. By being loud. Animals do it too like lions they have a mighty roar. But they only roar when they are afraid. No? Why would they otherwise roar?

I suspect you are partially correct, they will roar out of fear to try to scare of the other guy, but after a successful take down, they'll also roar to show their dominance, in order to assert their position.
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