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Re: History of Techno

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Post by o0-0o »

This article is O-K, but just like the title, it's a bit generic, and to be honest the whole genre deserves more research and detail.

Here are some tracks that should be mentioned as influential for techno in general.

Sharpside - I Love Techno (Original Mix) - 2000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LMJcexnRvE

Moroder - Chase - 1978 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViN2bRGrBx8

...and let's not forget about the ladies Delia Derbyshire - Pot Au Feu - 1968 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdiMcEeTJA

Re: History of Techno

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Post by Jommi »

comprev wrote: post #235
Jommi wrote: post #175

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It's fascinating how the "techno" moniker nowadays really just means any non festival non house dance music.

By that logic anything with a guitar is rock music. Techno has a vast range of styles.

Yes that is my point

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Post by kristopolous »

rorykoehler wrote: post #144
kristopolous wrote: post #39

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Yeah fixed it. I wrote that on my cell phone sitting in my driveway. Also if you like that please check out his 1975 release "Inventions for Electric Guitar". I can't praise this one enough https://youtu.be/khejrbgdc4w

I liked the e2 e4 album so much I drained my car battery listening to it and now I need to buy a new one.

he's still around, pretty approachable https://www.facebook.com/manuel.gottsching

Re: History of Techno

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Post by HKH2 »

monocasa wrote: post #188
HKH2 wrote: post #57

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You don't get on the main stage without words/lyrics. Also, any musician that wants to get big should know that the fastest way is to add words/lyrics. Music is such a universal language that it needs to be annotated or something.

Mainstage is a specific genre of EDM, ironically known for being particularly transparent and banal these days. Some of the most likely to have lyrics that are basically just another beat track, IMO, if they have them at all. Trance ironically enough (including a lot of the stuff Tiesto worked on) is known for having very deep lyrics and that's a good chunk of what people are missing I think when they make the commen…

I think once the genre becomes defined, it's often bound to get more simplistic if there are words/lyrics. It's not limited to trance music.

A lot of trance music never even had lyrics; listen to what came out before 2000. (Even Tiesto made a lot of music without lyrics before 2002 or so). If you want to find music that sounds like the early days of trance music then you'll more likely find it labeled as techno music today (which is not really all that surprising since trance music originated from techno music anyway).

Beautiful Things is arguably not trance music. Also, when you're studying or trying to concentrate, do you listen to music with lyrics?

Re: History of Techno

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Post by dcw303 »

piva00 wrote: post #290
tomduncalf wrote: post #237

Cool to see so much discussion about techno on here! I’ve been a huge dance music fan/nerd ever since I was a teenager and techno is my favourite genre, particularly the deeper and more hypnotic varieties. Check out Donato Dozzy’s 2008 Labyrinth set for an idea of what I mean, it blew my mind at the time (still does) and redefined my musical tastes quite a lot: https://soundcloud.com/user-602354628/sets/dozzy-labyrin…

I felt the same, it was super nice to open HN and see so many comments on a techno thread. Not sure if a Discord would be helpful as might need a critical mass to not get abandoned... But I would love to have a place with people from HN to chat techno, feel that could take me to music discussions I haven't had yet, the crowd here is quite interesting. From my personal background, I've always liked dance music, got mo…

There's a few discord communities already if you're interested in joining an established group:

Hypnus server slants to deep/hypnotic same as their label, also has a private area accessible via sub to label boss Michel's Patreon

https://discord.gg/w2G3RcNJ

A Thousand Details hosts Collective Details, which is a techno community and also a collective net label. We (I produce & do admin for the label) have four releases out with the 5th due very soon. More of a producer focus, and a bit broader techno taste, from industrial to deep to hypnotic to mental, but all on the underground flavour.

https://discord.gg/DhE8DxM7

/r/hypnotech has a companion server for their reddit, it has shifted its focus more to cataloguing tracks and labels

https://discord.gg/7fJuTcSq

6AM is an LA based techno event group, I think they sell merch and have a blog as well. They are also working on some integration with their own crypto coin. Music focus here is more on the mainstream / bigroom techno sound.

https://discord.gg/84jPRQSx

Richie Hawtin also has a server, but I literally just joined so I don’t know much about that one.

https://discord.gg/p6GfTaxp

I’m on all of these under the alias neurojacker, stop by and say hi if you’re interested!

Oh, Stoor also has a producer focused discord. I lost the link when I unsubbed but it shouldn't be too hard to find from some googling.

There’s also server hosted by /r/technoproduction, but it was a bit of a hot mess of self promotion.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by devmunchies »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #286
devmunchies wrote: post #277

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This confuses the heck out of me. I saw my comment as the more inclusive. > using a reactionary talking point ???

im gonna start a music project called sounding fun at techno parties

reddit joke from 2015? wait am i just debating a bunch of redditors? makes me feel better about my opinion now.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by kristopolous »

evanelias wrote: post #151
kristopolous wrote: post #70

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I think my main contention can be illustrated by trying to discover where Disco comes from. I was looking for this kind of shoestring style story for years. Then I gave up trying to construct it. The reality is it's a bunch of things smashed together like pressing all the buttons at the soda fountain at once. That's what happened. That's where techno came from as well. Sometimes the narratives are super clean, like r…

> I think my main contention can be illustrated by trying to discover where Disco comes from. Isn't the concise answer Philadelphia? :) Partially joking, I know this is an oversimplification. In any case, this interview with Earl Young from The Trammps, discussing the origin of four-on-the-floor, is pure gold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsf51_a1ceI

That's a great video! I have never seen it. Thanks!

The thing that complicates it is four on the floor has lots of predated "almost but ok, not quite exactly" versions. Such as in Brazilian pop, take Participação from 1971: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DP6hRt9xvw ... those percussion aren't far away from late-70s orchestral disco. Almost same BPM.

This drum style kinda came out of everywhere. Here it is in Pakistan also in 1971 for instance, Runa Laila, Rushdi, Shaukat Ali Khan & Munir - We Don´t Care, starts around 1 minute in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9uYjpkTkNo ... that's the 73 columbia release pictured in youtube, not the original 71 odeon one.

Here you can get it in part of this 1971 Phillipines release by Dakila as well during the chorus, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUKDKXSA2-8

Or what about Sophy, from Puerto Rico also in 1971: No Quiero Que Te Vayas ... a very slight change in the drums and you get disco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bhdOpVs9hU ... this one-step-away stuff was common, here's Polish artist Halina Frackowiak - Do końca świata https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgrUUfXesdM or ピンキー グッド・バイ from 1972: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeRtlpY96B0 ... ok that last one was just for fun.

Anyway, I've been trying to compile this narrative for a long time ... all the soda flavors at once smashed together. That's all I can come up with.

Re: History of Techno

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Post by npunt »

dang wrote: post #226
npunt wrote: post #2

Neat article but completely unnecessary scrolljacking. If you pinch zoom in, you can't even pan around normally. Scroll down a bit and then tap the (also completely unnecessary) arrow in the bottom right, and it'll ever.. so.. slowly.. scroll you back to the top. The web gives bad designers too much rope to hang everyone with.

" Please don't complain about website formatting, back-button breakage, and similar annoyances. They're too common to be interesting. Exception: when the author is present. Then friendly feedback might be helpful. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Oops, sorry will keep that in mind next time!
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