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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I’m even more astonished by the dismissive, misspelled, and incorrect support response. * telling the customer they’re wrong... * incorrectly... * and with multiple typos. Yes, very cool.

The customer service response is deplorable, makes me think twice about purchasing any more Ubiquiti gear.

If you want support do not go to Ubiquiti. That is not their business model (yet). And I hope it will never be.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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You're upset about regulators, not about advertising. It seems like you're mixing advertising = fraud, when in reality it's just people who commit fraud that use advertising because regulators can't seem to act.

I got my first Internet connection when adblock was already a thing (though I was definitely an early adopter). I don't know how ad-filled Internet looks like and I will fight tooth and nail with every tool at my disposal to keep it that way: adblocks, Pi-hole, VPNs on phones, paying for ad-free versions, it doesn't matter. I do not watch TV and I will do my best to keep ads out of all my screens.

Good for you mate, just keep in mind that a large part of your purchase decisions are still influenced by paid media (not only advertising) - as long as you're aware of that, you're safer, that's the true adblock.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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This is on the hosted interface, right? I can sorta understand that, especially when the ads are for their own gear. But if I start seeing ads in my locally installed copy of Unifi, this will be a problem.

I just got this ad on the unifi Controller hosted on my own server. Not happy about this.

Well that is disheartening. I've been pretty happy with my choice of Ubiquiti gear for home, it was a vast improvement over the consumer-grade gear I had been using before, but if I'm going to start seeing ads on my own server, I'll be looking elsewhere when it's time to upgrade.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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With unleashed they do. Its otherwise known as meshing pretty much anywhere else. https://docs.ruckuswireless.com/unleashed/200.1.9.12/c-MeshO... If you are talking long distances you need to start looking at directional antennas...But to say..span an A-Frame house...they would do fine as others as well.

It's just over two rooms and a hallway essentially, so should be fine. Thanks a lot! EDIT: The "Wireless Bridge Topology" is exactly what I need, here, but it's not entirely clear to me yet if I'd really need two APs on the gateway side as the picture suggests: https://docs.ruckuswireless.com/unleashed/200.1.9.12/c-Suppo...

You will need to have one AP wired (thats the root AP) and the next ones can be wireless connected/meshed.

Note: regardless of the vendor Meshing will basically 1/2 your available wireless bandwidth. Its handy to extend coverage, and you will still be able to stream netflix and probably even things like facetime etc, but you are going to be essentially inducing a half-duplex connection into your "backbone".

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I sometimes wonder how these decisions get made within companies. I mean you are network hw vendor, how do you get convinced to embed adware/spyware into your products without compromising on trust? I'd fire all concerned if I were on the board and understood what the brand meant.

The decision maker is a product manager. The person has an agenda. With Unifi that seems to be: let us build a proper remote management interface and new fancier UI at all costs (and with some evil thinking a subscription service). Over time they become so invested that even of the become aware of the real customer need they cannot jump of from what they started.

Other example: the other Ubiquiti product manager check offs feature lost: IDS check, firewall check, pppoe check. Seeing that they are half baked he ignores.

I do not think that Ubiquiti problems is the engineering they outsourced. It is the product management they screwed up. They are not listening to what user wants. The indian IT guys are delivering.

And honestly: it is an ad. No ad network. They know our network better than us by their cloud management ... They do not need to analyze us. When they want to be an ad network they could do much worse things (like the telcos do).

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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If this is calling out, even to just their own servers for information about just their own products, even if only when an admin is actively using the UI and we can lock that account down, and there is no way to completely disable it, we will have to replace all the kit we have of theirs and never buy more. As well as offending our idea of security it simply won't pass the security audits we have to perform for our c…

Without explanatory comments to the contrary, I'm going to assume the downvotes are from Ubiquiti shills trying to cause silence instead of addressing the issue and lower my opinion of the company and the trustworthiness of its products accordingly.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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An advertisement for a company’s products on the login page is one thing - but a full on banner in the interface itself (with apparently no way to disable) is another. Sticking with Mikrotik for now.

Big fan of Mikrotik, I have about a half-dozen scattered about the homelab.

Made a decision long time ago to go all-Mikrotik instead of ubnt, definitely glad I made that decision several years ago.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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At this point I'm just generally not okay with being marketed to against my will. Especially in places that have absolutely literally nothing to do with spending money — like, you know, every single news website and every single social media service. If I want to buy something, and if I don't know exactly what, I'd like an unbiased list of things in that category to choose from. And when I don't want to buy anything…

So who pays for what you're consuming?

The person with the server.

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I was on the fence about buying some ubiquiti stuff. Now there's little chance. Do you have any recommendations for competing products?

For what products/environment/usecase?

just typical prosumer use cases. Nothing fancy

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

Having less exposure to advertising, given that I watch less advertising-interrupted television than ever and have had a pi-hole running for a good couple of years, when I am exposed to advertising I'm reminded of how incredibly bottom-feeding it is. I've said it before: Advertising is a psychological attack on human weakness. > I find it hard to separate the fraudsters from the engineers that enable them Paraphrasin…

More and more I'm seeing a general public backlash against advertising. It's been so large and so prevalent that people find it irritating enough to avoid products that are getting heavy pushes. I've found myself having a visceral "stay the hell away from this product" reaction on occasion as well.

My stance on web advertising has always been "go back to static, not in-my-face, non-animated, no audio, no javascript ads and I'll consider turning off my ad blocker."

I'm absolutely not letting my computer get infected through the ad networks, which is a separate issue really.

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