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Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up
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Re: Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up
#292Lots on green usernames in this thread.
yeah because you can't talk about this stuff openly without getting cancelled, unless you aren't white or male.
> unless you aren't white or male.
Kind of says something when this is seen as an exceptional case, given that a significant majority of people aren't white men...
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve seen professional women get negative feedback when they favored a qualified man over a slightly less qualified woman. I can imagine a female VC would be under the same pressure to remain silent lest they be lit up on Twitter for being female and yet still sexist.
"Internalised misogyny", perhaps? I mean, why not, right? If gays can allegedly have "internalised homophobia", then why can't women have "internalised misogyny". And so it goes. When we jettison reason, everyone gets to say what they want, and no-one gets to say that one conclusion is more soundly-based that another.
No, this is not a thing.
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#294This is kind of the end result we're heading for, where you can only talk candidly with people who are equal or lower than you on the oppression hierarchy. The shitty part is that I'm pretty sure 99% of people are reasonable human beings but the media has to make it seem like that isn't the case so the risk equation changes. Similar to how kids used to roam around the neighborhood but now it's deemed too risky becaus…
It's a matter of risk mitigation. Either a person accepts extreme, but very unlikely, risk by exercising perfect candor with everyone or they decide to clam up around people lower on the 'oppression hierarchy' which costs them almost nothing to do. Why would any rational actor not choose option B unless they're getting some reward great enough to offset the risk of option A?
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
How come other professions like Law and Medicine were able to make huge progress overcoming similar problems while tech continues to lag behind? This is not an intractable problem.
One thing I read is that the biggest difference between men and women has been found to be interest in things vs interest in people. If true this could explain the differences in attraction of various fields.
Yes, every evolutionary psychologist talks about it. And you can see it in the outcomes - one of them being men commit most violent crime (>80%) and usually on one another.
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#296>I’m not going to suggest a solution to the problem of men clamming up. Well gee how about people stop blaming white males for every problem in the world, cancelling them for the slightest "microaggression", etc. Maybe that would make society a bit more equal? It should would be nice to talk openly with coworkers and peers without worrying about offending someone over the slightest thing.
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#297Anecdotal but my office is ultra -woke. There are endless internal emails about whatever-week, or veterans-this, or LBGTQ+-that etc etc. People have been hounded out and either quit or been fired for fairly minor "infractions" of the groupthink (...and also some people have rightly been fired for actual inappropriate behaviour). And guess what all this talk about "toxic masculinity" and generally vilifying all men le…
Not good. Some of us have felt like that for thirty years. Once apon a time there were a group of people who swaggered through life saying whatever popped into their brains whom ever it offended or belittled. They engaged in metaphorical, but brutal, wrestling matches not just with each other but with any body who crossed their paths. Now life is very hard for them. Should have happened thirty years ago. Has it gone…
>Now life is very hard for them.
Not them, but people physically similar to them. An important distinction. The people you're actually describing are generally retired or dead.
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#298I'm really glad to see this here. I don't have a better word readily available than sexism for trying to talk about patterns like this but when I use the word sexism , I think people think I mean "Men are intentionally exclusionary assholes just to be assholes because they simply hate women." and that's never what I'm trying to say. I find my gender is a barrier to getting traction and my experience is that it's due…
What is described in the article isn't sexism - it's fear. Fear of being labeled as a sexist.
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#299I’m a white cis male, and I work as a software engineer at a Silicon Valley unicorn. My employer is a perennial darling of the HN crowd, and is likely to continue its rocket ride in the years to come. I’ll be completely candid here: I have some kind of problem with women. This isn’t to say that I don’t like women or don’t want women to succeed. I just don’t want to associate with or be seen around women. I’m sure the…
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Re: Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up
#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
How come other professions like Law and Medicine were able to make huge progress overcoming similar problems while tech continues to lag behind? This is not an intractable problem.
One thing I read is that the biggest difference between men and women has been found to be interest in things vs interest in people. If true this could explain the differences in attraction of various fields.
I don’t buy it.