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The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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Maybe they mean "mRNA vaccines"? COVID vaccine is the first of this kind, so some side effects, especially long term ones, are still unknown. It's still unlikely that they would be very serious but we won't know for sure until 10 years from now.

In case people really have concerns about the newer mRNA vaccines, perhaps they can choose the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is a more traditional one.

Both are more or less new. The AZ method is only known from Ebola vaccines but they were not not used globally.

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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Lets go to Wile E. Coyote for this one. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e2/f0/16/e2f0165777598a13c246... Anvils would not be possible without the universe ergo we cannot possible predict solely on our knowledge of Warner Brothers physics and prior plot lines that the anvil trap he is laying will fall on his own head comically flattening him yet somehow leaving him alive and ready to chase the road runner again in the…

I wonder what the odds are of a single Looney Tunes episode coming into being without intelligent design, let alone our infinitely more complex universe. I also wonder about Wile E's ability to comprehend the ways of Messrs. Hanna and Barbera.

In a universe where it never happened we just never had this discussion.

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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Why is it outside of the scientific method? Speculate based on the other things we know about the universe, devise way of test theory, rinse repeat.

By definition, you can propose theories that are untestable. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/popper/

You would need to prove all theories that describe the beginning of life on earth will be untestable.

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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"From the moment the invaders arrived, breathed our air, ate and drank, they were doomed. They were undone, destroyed, after all of man's weapons and devices had failed, by the tiniest creatures that God in his wisdom put upon this earth. By the toll of a billion deaths, man had earned his immunity, his right to survive among this planet's infinite organisms. And that right is ours against all challenges. For neither…

"the tiniest creatures God in his wisdom put upon this earth" The writing is nice but flawed. Since War of the Worlds, we have advanced tremendously and no longer need intelligent design or creation myths to explain microorganisms. Reproducible, testable science demonstrates that in the primordial oceans, self-replicating molecules which were slightly better at self-replicating produced globules of matter capable of…

It's a figure of speech...

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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By definition, you can propose theories that are untestable. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/popper/

You would need to prove all theories that describe the beginning of life on earth will be untestable.

Sure, I’m alluding more towards, for example, the existence of hydrogen itself versus the beginning of life on earth which comes much later.

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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You would need to prove all theories that describe the beginning of life on earth will be untestable.

Sure, I’m alluding more towards, for example, the existence of hydrogen itself versus the beginning of life on earth which comes much later.

Why would you need to go back to the formation of matter to understand how life formed billions of years later?

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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let me rephrase; science has limited itself to understanding the laws of Nature. It can never tell us how the world -and thus life- came to be. I admit your argument was a good one. But not the anti religious points. Essentially atheists has declared Nature as the true god. In the rules he has imposed, he has left us with no choice. Science has hardly managed to do away with god, it has merely managed to exchange him…

Only theists conceive of God as an essential element and thereby perceive a god shaped hole in atheists world view? What religion does your cat practice for example? Nature is like gravity it is a label we attach to things in order to communicate about some aspect of our mental models of the universe we share or imagine we share sufficiently to communicate theories about the underlying thing those models point to. It…

>neither of our experiences is a lie and you definitely do not understand mine or any other alike.

They're not talking about personal experiences, they're talking about objective truth, and of those there's only one.

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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All human coronavirus diseases, including COVID-19, are colds. Always have been. This one from 1890 might have been caused by OC43: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889–1890_pandemic

No. Colds are upper respiratory tract infections and only affect the nose and throat, as opposed to viral pneumonia. Different coronaviruses have different proteins and corresponding cell receptors (ACE2, DPP4, etc), which result in different organs being infected. Saying that all coronavirus diseases are colds is about as accurate as saying that all coronavirus diseases are SARS.

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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post #47

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> are colds. What constitutes a "cold"? Is there some kind of definition for it?

Exactly! Colds are poorly understood, and can be very dangerous. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4181476/

...I don’t see the word “cold” in that paper.
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