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Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by aksss »

jcranmer wrote: post #241
da_big_ghey wrote: post #147

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Population continues to grow, and there are many Americans who don't own guns who represent a big market. Many have purchased their first in the past year. And yes, lots of people like collecting a shooting a wide variety of guns. Most of then do it for reasons other than or in addition to prepping. The new firearms market is not going to die; the idea that it will is fudd nonsense.

Gun ownership in the US has gone down over the past ~30-40 years, but the number of guns per capita has gone up, which indicates that fewer people are buying guns but that those who do are buying more guns than they used to.

Ownership estimates are based on survey data, not registration data. Gun owners are far, far less likely to be honest about ownership with some rando survey taker than they were 40 years ago.

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Post by ashtonkem »

aksss wrote: post #280
ashtonkem wrote: post #252

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Finland also has a lot of guns, about 1.5mil out of a population of 5.5mil. Compare this to the 57,000 registered guns among New Jersey’s 8.8mil residents. It’s not just military service, even if that explains Switzerland specifically. Europe is a more diverse place ideologically and socially than most Americans tend to imagine it. The place is bigger and more complex than just Paris or Berlin, just like how America…

Finland also has a very proud firearm history - particularly related to their independence, high quality firearm manufacturing history, and hunting.

I own no firearms, but I’ve gotta admit that Sako does some really good advertising to connect their firearms to everything you just mentioned. I don’t even hunt and it makes me want one.

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throwaway_oil wrote: post #263
yaacov wrote: post #239

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> Finally, the idea of "banning" guns -- which every basically qualified engineer or physicist should be capable to building from readily available materials and tools -- makes them even more interesting. If for no other reason than to illuminate preposterous and insulting nature of the idea. By this logic, almost nothing should be banned, do you endorse that position?

Trivial counterexample: I can't make an Apple M1 chip in my garage. I can't make (good?) LSD in my garage. I can put a metal pipe on a board with a nail and have a simple, reliable 12ga shotgun. I can 3d print a 22LR pistol, or even a 9mm subgun (just add pipe for barrel, weight for bolt, and some common springs). I assume your response was probably born out of some political frustration, and I respect that. Happy to…

You can 3D print a gun you can use once.

Where are you going to get the bullets from? Or for a shotgun, where is the powder from, the pellets etc.

I live in the UK, I quite like clay pigeon shooting, would it be a shock to you that American mass shootings basically aren't news worthy anymore unless they are more than 2 dozen people now?

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Post by mhh__ »

ryandrake wrote: post #240
ggreer wrote: post #208

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Are you sure? Most gun enthusiasts at tech companies are in the closet. Had I known just how much my bosses hate guns (all the way up to the CEO), I would have kept my mouth shut about my hobby. It would be an amazing coincidence if none of your coworkers were interested in guns. Around 30% of Californians have at least one gun in their home. Naively extrapolating: that means if you have 15 coworkers, there is a 99.5…

Back in the early 2000s I worked at a company where we did a fun “Bring Your Gun to Work day” on Wednesdays. Instead of going to a restaurant at lunchtime we went to the shooting range instead. Was a really popular activity, probably 1/3 of the office participated. Some people brought several guns to try. Good times! Could never do this these days in Silicon Valley though :(

Honestly I would rather there wasn't a "bring a lethal weapon" to work day. How very American.

If you want to go down to the range after-work, by all means do so, but the way you Americans trivialise a toy good for nothing but war in many cases is really fascinating.

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Post by mhh__ »

lazycrazyowl wrote: post #157
lutoma wrote: post #102

Honest question: How is this relevant to Hacker News? As a non-American i was rather bewildered to find this here. Is there a serious overlap between gun enthusiasts and the IT community in the US?

In my opinion Hacker News isn’t strictly an IT community but a platform that focuses on technology, startup culture and entrepreneurship that allows followers with a mix of technical obsession, business ambition, and aspirational curiosity to discuss among themselves to have some sort of intellectual reasoning.I may be wrong.

Hackernews definitely has a political angle to it as well. It's hard to nail it down but the idea that HN is a totally free of groupthink is really dumb.

Re: Czech gunmaker CZG buys Colt in cash and stock deal

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Post by mhh__ »

arkitaip wrote: post #103
lutoma wrote: post #102

Honest question: How is this relevant to Hacker News? As a non-American i was rather bewildered to find this here. Is there a serious overlap between gun enthusiasts and the IT community in the US?

HN is much more conservative and libertarian than you might think.

E.g. criticise the Orangeman and watch the downvotes pour in. Criticise his opponents, or have some contrarian defence of him, not much happens.

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Post by Vecr »

mhh__ wrote: post #293
throwaway_oil wrote: post #263

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Trivial counterexample: I can't make an Apple M1 chip in my garage. I can't make (good?) LSD in my garage. I can put a metal pipe on a board with a nail and have a simple, reliable 12ga shotgun. I can 3d print a 22LR pistol, or even a 9mm subgun (just add pipe for barrel, weight for bolt, and some common springs). I assume your response was probably born out of some political frustration, and I respect that. Happy to…

You can 3D print a gun you can use once. Where are you going to get the bullets from? Or for a shotgun, where is the powder from, the pellets etc. I live in the UK, I quite like clay pigeon shooting, would it be a shock to you that American mass shootings basically aren't news worthy anymore unless they are more than 2 dozen people now?

That's not correct, if you want a rifled barrel, you do need to electro-machine it, and you might want some airsoft parts, but everything else is bolts and printed parts.

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Post by mhh__ »

Vecr wrote: post #297
mhh__ wrote: post #293

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You can 3D print a gun you can use once. Where are you going to get the bullets from? Or for a shotgun, where is the powder from, the pellets etc. I live in the UK, I quite like clay pigeon shooting, would it be a shock to you that American mass shootings basically aren't news worthy anymore unless they are more than 2 dozen people now?

That's not correct, if you want a rifled barrel, you do need to electro-machine it, and you might want some airsoft parts, but everything else is bolts and printed parts.

What? Unless things have improved a lot since I last checked all the designs for fully 3D printed guns I could find were one used affairs.

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Post by JabavuAdams »

jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #88
nostrademons wrote: post #54

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Yup. The largest ones could afford to buy a mid-size country. (AMZN revenue = $386B, AAPL revenue = $274B, GOOG revenue = $182B, Norway GDP = $366B, Vietnam GDP = $340B, Chile GDP = $245B). Note also that SpaceX has more accurate ballistic missiles than the U.S. and Russia (PeaceKeeper CEP = 40M, while SpaceX routinely lands rockets upright within a ~10M radius on a drone ship), and Google has more data than the CIA…

An ICBM hitting a target purely on internal guidance is an entirely different level of problem from what SpaceX is doing with cooperative positioning systems at the target. Also keep in mind that the "wikipedia numbers" for classified weapons systems are usually "at least" numbers, not exact. It's not at all clear who has more data between GOOG and NSA. Both don't exactly declare the numbers, but it is known that in…

Let's get hypergoooooolic! What? I've been alone in a room coding for three days.

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Post by aksss »

rascul wrote: post #287
aksss wrote: post #281

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Schuetzen matches and anschutz are a thing in the US but come to us courtesy the Germans.

How does "schuetzen" and "anschutz" translate to English? Google Translate doesn't appear to be very helpful.

I think schuetzen or schützen is kind of generic for a shooter/marksman. I don’t know about Anschutz - I always associated with the particular rifle maker/style and the associated matches but I know it’s a surname as well.

https://blog.westernpowders.com/2017/11/schuetzen-the-purest...

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