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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by minimaxir »

shaolinspirit wrote: post #260
pdimitar wrote: post #223

And THAT will make me finally replace my MacBook Pro 2015. No touch bar, MagSafe, good amount of ports. The iPhone 12-esque design is a good bonus too (I like it more than all others before it). Only took 5-6 years but I am again excited about MacBooks.

lol, I was thinking I'm the only one sitting with my 2015 macpro ^_^ love this laptop, however it got super slow and the battery life is almost zero, which is fine after almost 4 years of serving.

If you haven't, a wipe + reinstall of macOS does help the slowness/battery life issues a bit. (had to do that on a 2016 MBP which was acting up and it made a difference. Although make sure not to format as APFS when wiping it!)

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by ravenstine »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #266
wlesieutre wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Could this be talking about an iPhone 12 style magsafe with a large pad? Not sure how that would work, you'd have to set your computer on top of it to have enough contact…

> MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick No law of physics requires a cable with a magnet on one end to not be detachable from the brick on the other end. So while I too do not lament that the cable is no longer affixed to the bricks, I would like Apple to make a magsafe cable that is just not attached that is also not shitty (all those third party USBC at…

Interesting you say that because I've been using a 3rd party USB-C to Magsafe connector to charge my Macbook and it works great. The magnet is even stronger than the OEM ones. Never had a problem with it.

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Post by hajile »

kevindong wrote: post #263
square_usual wrote: post #38

I know it's from Kuo, but these leaks don't pass the smell test for me. It makes no sense for them to add the touchbar to the base model 13" MBPs only to remove them from the higher end versions. It makes even less sense to add more ports which aren't USB-C, as the bits about MagSafe and no dongles imply. Further, I don't understand what is meant by "iPhone 12 like" non-curvy design - I have a 2018 MBP 15", and the s…

Kuo has a remarkable track record of being right, but he's not perfect. Currently he's ~78.2% accurate. https://appletrack.org/ming-chi-kuo/

Looking through that list, there's several predictions about late 2020 that didn't happen and most predictions he's made were far enough out to still be pending. In addition, lots of "correct guesses" were pretty basic things.

Not saying this won't come to be, but his actual accuracy where it counts seems much lower than indicated.

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Post by ehsankia »

ravenstine wrote: post #216

I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

I don't really see the issue, since the laptop will still be chargeable by USB-C anyways, unlike iPhone's with a single port. I believe Microsoft also uses their own charger port but also have power delivery USB-C port. As long as they add more ports, best of both worlds, really.

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Post by imhoguy »

chx wrote: post #270

It's not fully impossible to build an up-to-specs magnetic USB C connector, it just hasn't happened yet. I am 100% if anyone ever pulls it off, it'll be Apple. https://twitter.com/USBCGuy/status/1186718432932159488 > No, because per the spec, and current technological limitations, there is no way to do a proper connector and logic board. > It might be possible some day with active electronics, and special electroopti…

I see some 24 pin "magnetic usb-c" adapters with 100W PD and TB3 compatibility on Amazon/Aliexpress. They need an existing cable so likely they just pass-thru cable capability discovery to an existing chip. Apart of some wear issues, reviews are rather positive. Anyone tried such?

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Post by hajile »

pdimitar wrote: post #223

And THAT will make me finally replace my MacBook Pro 2015. No touch bar, MagSafe, good amount of ports. The iPhone 12-esque design is a good bonus too (I like it more than all others before it). Only took 5-6 years but I am again excited about MacBooks.

Now if they could just add one USB-A and one HDMI. Unfortunately, those ports aren't going anywhere for at least a decade if not much longer.

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Post by kube-system »

switz wrote: post #66

If anyone from Apple is reading, let me just say – this is exactly what I want. Magsafe charging. Function keys instead of the touchbar. 15-16" screen. M1 CPU. 32GB Memory. I also prefer the 2015 keyboard, but it's not a dealbreaker. I'll pay for the kickstarter now if it means it'll come out in the next 18 months. Please make it happen.

I was a huge MagSafe fan, but USB-C interoperability is just too good to give up IMO. I hope they still support charging via USB-C PD even if they do have MagSafe.

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Post by dont__panic »

totalZero wrote: post #286
matt-attack wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems clear to me that they're going to incorporate the exact same Mag Safe charger as they did on the iPhone 12. Same magnetic paddle, but it will attach to the lid or the back or something.

The only problem I see with your concept: A single iPhone MagSafe charger pushes 15w on a great day. A MBP is going to draw about four times that.

In the case of the 16", which draws 96W at full bore these days, more than six times that. I've heard speculation that the new MBPs might not wirelessly charge themselves... but could have an integrated wireless charger in the palmrests for iphones/etc.

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Post by kube-system »

sneak wrote: post #220
switz wrote: post #66

If anyone from Apple is reading, let me just say – this is exactly what I want. Magsafe charging. Function keys instead of the touchbar. 15-16" screen. M1 CPU. 32GB Memory. I also prefer the 2015 keyboard, but it's not a dealbreaker. I'll pay for the kickstarter now if it means it'll come out in the next 18 months. Please make it happen.

Using the same chip from the ~$1k air in the >$3k pro seems like an odd request. I doubt any Macbook Pro will ever have an M1. I would expect significantly more and faster cores. EDIT: I'm stupid - there is a shipping M1 MBP today.

> I doubt any Macbook Pro will ever have an M1.

I typed this comment with one :)

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Post by jki275 »

imhoguy wrote: post #295
chx wrote: post #270

It's not fully impossible to build an up-to-specs magnetic USB C connector, it just hasn't happened yet. I am 100% if anyone ever pulls it off, it'll be Apple. https://twitter.com/USBCGuy/status/1186718432932159488 > No, because per the spec, and current technological limitations, there is no way to do a proper connector and logic board. > It might be possible some day with active electronics, and special electroopti…

I see some 24 pin "magnetic usb-c" adapters with 100W PD and TB3 compatibility on Amazon/Aliexpress. They need an existing cable so likely they just pass-thru cable capability discovery to an existing chip. Apart of some wear issues, reviews are rather positive. Anyone tried such?

None of them work unfortunately.

They can pass USB 3 through, but you can't run anything beyond that. No video, no thunderbolt. I've tried several variants of them, they're all the exact same product and they don't work.

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