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Should I be worried? Probably not since I am not advocating for the violent overthrow of democracy in America.
wikileaks was mainly attacked through denial of access to the financial system. Would you be ok with Stripe stopping payment to the GOP?
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They would have done it sooner if it was politically motivated, as opposed to being in reaction to breach of their ToS.
I disagree. Earlier would mean Republicans have more time to enforce consequences. With looming antitrust cases with many big tech companies, this could be construed as a pledge of loyalty.
There is a difference between bank accounts, Visa/MasterCard access and Internet service, on one hand, and App Stores, Twitter accounts and payment providers, on the other hand. The First Amendment promises both free speech and free assembly. Core to the latter is the freedom not to assemble. This freedom is regulated. You can’t refuse to do business with protected classes. But political affiliation is not a protecte…
> Stripe and Twitter are pretty clearly the latter. They might be the latter, but I wouldn't consider it obvious. Regarding social media, we've gotten to the point where even US Visa applications ask for social media handles (and I understand they consider it as a negative datum if you don't provide one). And we're also at the point where some companies won't provide you with respectable service unless you @ them on…
Stripe and Twitter are not utilities. Some may want them to be. But I don’t think anyone says they currently have utility obligations under the law.
Welcome to the shiny new age of totalitarian tolerance.
I wonder if during world war 2 people opposed fighting nazis like this...
Also, it is worth remembering that what we know about the Nazis today is not necessarily what people knew about the Nazis then.
I think myths about WW2 are quite damaging. Everyone today appears to think that they are in a good vs evil battle. Not only is this quite clearly not justified by the facts today (for example, comparing the Capitol with Kristallnacht, as Schwarznegger did, is a chilling inaccuracy...particularly from someone who hails from Austria), it wasn't the situation then...no-one in WW2 in the US regarded it as a good vs evil battle (only Churchill did, and he was lambasted for it).
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> Hollywood is a private business as well. No, it's not a private business. > They were within their rights to make a blacklist No, making an agreement in restraint of trade is a violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act.
are you under the impression that the hollywood studios published an actual blacklist and openly admitted to collusion? They didn't do that, just like the tech giants are not doing that now, as they take the same action at the same time against the same target.
Neither publication not open admission are necessary for a combination in restraint of trade to be illegal, and you'd usually want to avoid them since they make it much easier to prove.
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I don’t know if you were paying attention last week, but the mob literally came for the members of Congress. There are wrong opinions, and then there is “six million Jews were not enough” and “hang the Vice President”, and a violent mob attacking the Capitol. No one is under any obligation to tolerate such actions in a civil society. If I advocate for your murder, am I just expressing an opinion that should be conseq…
The mob has been coming for law enforcement and federal buildings in many major cities in America for nine months now. This mob actively organized on Twitter and other social media. Where was the outrage in June? Most of the organizations that organized this destruction still have their Twitter accounts.
With the current state of the right wing in the US, there is a clear and present danger of us losing our democracy. When you look at the statements about the election from last _June_, or the purges at the Defense Department last fall, it is clear that this nonsense (and it is nonsense, 59 court cases and counting) about election fraud was premeditated, and so was this coup attempt. This is the Beer Hall Putsch, and it’s a mistake to see how lucky we got and say there is an equivalence to protests against police violence.
Assuming you’re arguing in good faith, what you’re missing is that the outrage from this event isn’t about the five dead people, tragic though that is. It’s about the fact that armed protesters just walked into the Capitol Building while Congress was in session. We are very, very lucky we don’t have dead congresspeople. What do you think the mob that beat a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher in the Capitol building would have done to AOC if they’d gotten to her?
We cannot afford to make the mistake Weimar Germany did. We cannot assume that because this failed the problem is gone. We cannot appease these people, we cannot treat them as benign. They must all be identified and prosecuted, and their enablers in Congress must be expelled from our governing bodies.
Maybe I'm being naive but it seems like a larger problem is being ignored here that I feel I should call attention to. This is going to piss people off and some of those people are going to be real, nothing-to-lose extremists. Actions like these though seemingly harmless in the short-term are going to radicalize the exact person/type of people that you do not want to radicalize. Because a lot of high-ranking SV folks…
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Stop downplaying a literally terrorist attack on the nation's Capitol.
It's entertaining how the left was so critical of the use of the word "terrorist" when talking about the War on Terror, but then immediately started throwing it around when it politically expedient.
I think it would be very difficult to argue that last week's invasion of the Capitol Building was neither violent nor politically motivated.
The people cheering this on will not be protected when the mob comes for you. We live in a digital age. If having the wrong opinion means you can get your bank accounts and all Internet presence removed from you, it's not any different than living under a fascist government.
“First they came for the violent insurrectionists, and I did not speak out”