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Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Given how given to certain narratives some of these services are, I’m not surprised and I would predict more governments will do similar things pre-election. Now of course most of the governments that would do this would be authoritarian and would look to control their own narrative, I think this illustrates how unbalanced and agenda-driven these media and social graph services have become who bring in foreign values…

> Now of course most of the governments that would do this would be authoritarian Would they be? Consider what just happened in the USA: All of the major social media companies blocked a significant portion of the population because of the attempted subversion of democracy in the country. Now imagine if some similar subversion were attempted in another country, say Ecuador? Would these social media companies be as wi…

Calls for violence and election-critics were encouraged by current social media in some countries. It looks like many social media platforms have bias based on the political affinities of their owners.

I see no reason for any government or any party to trust the social media, mobile OS platforms and messaging anymore. A new set of tools is about to loom hopefully.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Ugandan here, to provide more context; This is clock work, every election period they shutdown social media & electronic payments. It happened in 2016[0] But when an "OTT" tax was imposed on social networks (Whatsapp, Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, Linkdin) in 2018[1]. Majority didn't want to pay an extra tax(required to use social media) on top of paying for internet. So majority learnt how to use vpns. As a result, t…

Thanks for the additional context. A lot of Americans in this thread are conflating their own country's issues with what's going on in the rest of the world.

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Does anyone else feel like we’re going down the path of internet Balkanization? Not in any immediate sense, but it seems like a slow rolling type of narrative that we will retrospectively see at the end of the 21st century. I don’t have any _real_ evidence to support this feeling of mine, but occasionally there are blips like this that make me wonder.

The world was 'balkanized' before the internet.

The internet naturally didn't end up having many borders.

These borders however are not just political, they reflect a lot of things.

It's very natural that the internet should be a little bit different in each nation, after all, everything else is.

We are not prepared for that, and we have no idea what it's going to mean, so it's going to be a rollercoaster.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only going from what I've observed on the continent, (especially in the EAC), but I think it's a bit deeper than that right now. Today, right across Africa, governments are studying the possibilities of restricting foreign internet services. Both as a way of controlling the information their populations get to view, but also as a means of addressing high youth unemployment among educated workers by giving their domes…

this is incorrect. Majority of African leaders and regimes are not interested in addressing high youth unemployment among educated workers by giving their domestic internet firms the room to take root. Even local startups have little to no support from their own countries. This is purely authoritarian. They are more interested in retaining power to continue exploiting their own people.

Youth unemploynent + unstable region = young men with time on their hands that could easily get recruited and become rebels. So the gov't must be totally interested addressing the issue.

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Can someone with more familiarity with Ugandan politics comment? My understanding is that outside developed states, lawful democracy can be very brittle especially in states containing multiple nations and tribes, and when there is a long history where the people tend to put their own nation and tribe before the others in the same state, leading to conflict. The rationale and measure seems to be a better evil if the…

Uganda is ruled by a virtual military dictatorship. There is substantial democratic opposition which is suppressed by the govt. It's quite an oppressive country, you see soldiers in black patrolling the streets on trucks.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

how's "app store" critical infrastructure? internet access should be enough

It's critical for those people who's only computer is an iPhone.

A single point of failure, so easily subverted by nefarious actors, seems like a grave architectural flaw on the iPhone to me.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Given how given to certain narratives some of these services are, I’m not surprised and I would predict more governments will do similar things pre-election. Now of course most of the governments that would do this would be authoritarian and would look to control their own narrative, I think this illustrates how unbalanced and agenda-driven these media and social graph services have become who bring in foreign values…

> Now of course most of the governments that would do this would be authoritarian Would they be? Consider what just happened in the USA: All of the major social media companies blocked a significant portion of the population because of the attempted subversion of democracy in the country. Now imagine if some similar subversion were attempted in another country, say Ecuador? Would these social media companies be as wi…

It's an interesting point I had not yet considered that most private internet censorship seems to relate to some political issue or moral value that primarily plays in the U.S.A..

That, and of course financially complying with pressure from the Chinese government to be tough on whatever independence movement it struggle with now — Catalonia was of course free to chant it's independence.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now of course most of the governments that would do this would be authoritarian Would they be? Consider what just happened in the USA: All of the major social media companies blocked a significant portion of the population because of the attempted subversion of democracy in the country. Now imagine if some similar subversion were attempted in another country, say Ecuador? Would these social media companies be as wi…

It's an interesting point I had not yet considered that most private internet censorship seems to relate to some political issue or moral value that primarily plays in the U.S.A.. That, and of course financially complying with pressure from the Chinese government to be tough on whatever independence movement it struggle with now — Catalonia was of course free to chant it's independence.

That's because you have no idea what's happening elsewhere. Here in Czechia we have our own version of the problems USA faces (regarding "censorship"/deletion of content), and nobody has any idea what's happening in the USA.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Time to decentralize everything

The internet is already decentralized, the masses willingly choose to use the same handful of sites.

There are already decentralized Twitter-esque alternatives, but they are hardly used, because without centralization no one is making money, and thus it cannot be advertised to the same magnitude.
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