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An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Are you a paying customer?

No, this is a free account from way back when (2010 maybe?)

Google deletes legacy Google Apps domains if none of the accounts at that domain are logged into for a year or something.

I've received multiple warnings for some of my unused domains.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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> "If you're over your storage limit for two years, Google may delete your content across Gmail, Drive and Photos," the company said. That's different from just deleting all your data because you're inactive. Which is it? Edit: it seems both. Here's the blog post (maybe this is a better link): https://blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-update/

Wow, 4.3 petabytes a day . Operating at Google's scale these days is just nuts.

I think the main issue is storage Moore's law has really hit a wall and it is no longer the case that the data Google stores grows slower than storage per dollar like in the early days. Google's freebie business model is going to have to drastically change if the two exponents have crossed paths and they'll have to do it fast because, exponents.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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FastMail / ProtonMail are good. But even they won't just store your mail forever for free.

I'd pay. But mostly, I'd pay to know the customer service would respond to me. Customer service at Google is like trying to cancel Verizon service - endless transfers.

If you pay for Google One they have live chat and email support. Usually I think they also have phone support but not currently due to COVID.

https://i.imgur.com/cXeu1HB.png

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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What's another good email provider? I am starting to feel really nervous about storing my life in Google. It's not that I wouldn't pay for these things...it's just that I worry one day I'll lose access and fall into the pit of "trying to get Google to help a single human regain access" that sounds horrible.

FastMail / ProtonMail are good. But even they won't just store your mail forever for free.

I had two grandfathered free Fastmail accounts. They got deleted for inactivity [1] when I was at a bad point in life.

Never using Fastmail after that. :)

[1] https://fastmail.blog/2012/10/18/changes-to-fastmail-service...

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #169

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It seems like only if you are over storage. Regardless, all you'd have to do is log into it once a year to avoid this. You should probably be backing it up externally at least this often if you care about the content...

It looks like it does this if you are over storage or if your account is inactive.

How is "inactive" defined? Maybe they're really going after people who create accounts primarily for free additional storage.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

Never trust cloud providers for archival data I think is the lesson. Keep your own storage for that.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Wow, 4.3 petabytes a day . Operating at Google's scale these days is just nuts.

One of the advantages of being on an exponential growth curve is that this figure has been way lower in the past. Just go back 5 years and it's only a fraction of that. 5 more years and it's even lower. The gmail/drive/etc. data that come from Google's first decade of existence probably fit into those 4.3 petabytes.

How is this an advantage?

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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oh damn. I've created an account for my newborn son on my (free) google workspace domain and send him emails every few weeks with updates and photos. He'll receive the account when he's like 12. Will these be deleted too?

I recently had an idea for a similar service that uses a storage account of your choosing as a backend. The plan was to market it as a “vault” for your emails and attachments. Basically, you get an email address, and any email you send to it is streamed to a storage account of your choosing, with optional minimal processing (e.g., convert your emails into Markdown prior to storage). I spent a while setting up the mai…

You can sort of do this now by:

- dump your gmail to gdrive with "google takeout"

- dump your gdrive with rclone (to some cloud service or whatever)

https://forum.rclone.org/t/is-it-possible-to-directly-backup...

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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A policy change that sabotages an idea that Google itself gave many people just a few years ago. Google's "Dear Sophie" ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhPklt9nYas

I wonder how close that skirts laws around false advertising

> I wonder how close that skirts laws around false advertising

At the time it wasn't fraudulent, though.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

Same with Fastmail, which used to have free accounts, but (permanently) deactivated them after 120 days of inactivity:

https://fastmail.blog/2012/10/18/changes-to-fastmail-service...

I just found that I can re-register my deactivated username at Fastmail if I want to. That's not cool.

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