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I feel the same way. Very interested, but not going to go in for first gen.
This is the 12th generation Apple Silicon processor design. A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, A9, A10, A11, A12, A13, A14, M1
I am worried about the other hardware and MacOSX being total POS right now.
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Here's one data point: a WebKit compile took 25min on the Air vs 20min on the Mini/Pro. That 25min is still a bit faster than the Intel 16-inch Pro, which took 27min and waaay faster than Intel 13-inch Pro at 46min. The crazy thing is that both M1 MacBooks still had 91% battery left after the compile, vs 61% on the 16-inch Pro and 24% on the 13-inch Intel Pro. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/17/yeah-apples-m1-macb…
This is insane perf/watt. x86 backwards compatibility may have gotten us to where we are, but it's certainly holding it back. Arm is looking great, and maybe it's time for x86 to die.
What kind of graphics APIs will it support? OpenGL?
I think they might support OpenGL but I think everyone considers their support second rate.
I think this will get interesting if/when MS, Nvidia and others start using ARM cpus more widely as well. Nvidia just bought ARM so that would help them get rid of Intel as a middle man for gaming hardware. MS already has windows running on ARM but that seems to be a budget laptops only kind of thing so far. Also they are shipping AMD on x-box, which is interesting. But you could see Nvidia building an SOC graphics +…
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Another item added to the list of why I'm not buying one of these.
It doesn't make a huge amount of sense to buy a Mac if you're not going to use Mac OS as your daily driver. A lot of the benefits (e.g. battery life, touchpad quality) are dependent on software as well as hardware, and are greatly diminished on Windows or Linux.
Macbook air: $999 (2 ports, no hdmi) vs $699 mac mini (2 ports + hdmi) + ipad $329 = $1029 Thinking of upgraing, my current macbook 2013 sits in a drawer 99% of the time connected to a monitor and keyboard. That 1% of the time when I travel, the macbook is too large to use comfortably on an airplane seat. The ipad would work better for this use. macbook air also only has two ports, so one would be used for external m…
I don't see why it couldn't about the size of a wallet and offer at least as good thermals as a macbook air.
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In single core performance, yes, but as the next page on the article shows, it's more comparable to the 4900HS, AMDs mobile CPU in multithreaded performance. https://www.anandtech.com/show/16252/mac-mini-apple-m1-teste...
The 4900HS has a 35W TDP, though. The M1 in the Mac Mini is estimated at around 20-24W TDP.
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These gains are just through improvements in processors. Now, combine that with parallel leaps for battery tech... It's also good that battery tech hasn't jumped too far ahead already - the constraint has helped in the development in these mobile chips. The display panel is still the biggest energy draw on my laptop. There's a lot of chance for improvement there too. A 2 day battery in 5 years isn't that crazy.
Apple is the kind of company that will choose to slim down the laptop instead of making it 2 day battery life.
In reviews of the new M1 Macs as a whole, I'd like to see a comparison with Qualcomm's best: meaning the fastest current Windows ARM laptops. Up to now, their performance has at best only kept up with comparably priced x86 models, despite pressure on Qualcomm by Microsoft and the device makers. Maybe some new competition will shake Qualcomm out of its complacency...
You may recall that Apple already embarrassed Qualcomm years ago when they shipped 64-bit ARM-based chips at least a year before Qualcomm could do it.
When the new iPhone ships, the next fastest phone is the iPhone being replaced by the new flagship phone. The Android phones based on Qualcomm’s best processors are way behind Apple's mid-level and entry-level phones.
The A series chips used in Apple's phones and tablets are way faster than anything Qualcomm is shipping for laptops, never mind the M series.
The Cinebench R23 results seem kinda weird to me. The 5950X would have almost a 40 % clock speed advantage over the M1 (~5 GHz 1C vs 3.2 GHz 1C), yet the M1 is only about 8 % slower in an entirely ALU-limited SIMD benchmark? This suggests the M1 core has like 50 % more EUs and achieves much higher throughput than Zen 3. The SPEC results are... decisive to say the least. Without Zen 3, x86 CPUs would look, well... lik…
Intel's CPUs have been getting remarkably worse for a long time now. They trail the software improvements. To give you an anecdote - I got a ThinkPad T430s and it made my work feel 10x faster(Java EE development in 2012). I got my next ThinPad P51s in 2017 - an it was just one huge disappointment. It felt like Intel was stepping back. I now have ThinkPad P1 and computing power is still just OK, though still better th…
the microcode bugs cut performance by 20-30% varrying in your workloads. and it comes with a 4k display? That would also contribute to a performance loss, depending on what you're doing.
That 2.8-3.9 cpu would be equal to a 2.3-3.3 before the bug, afaik. Thats hardly faster than 10 year old duals, wow!
>>they just need to crumble.
>Less competition will only make things worse for us consumers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯