Meanwhile, Debian has an official mirror (and two others) in Iran:
http://ftp.ir.debian.org/ https://www.debian.org/mirror/list
Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
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Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree it's not racism on GitLab's part, but the U.S. officials behind these sanctions themselves do use phrases like that they want to 'choke Iran's economy', that is in the middle of a pandemic where people's respiratory systems are at risk, it certainly doesn't look good on their part. Also worth noting that GitLab has previously banned hiring from China/Russia, so it's no stranger to blanket bans of questionable…
There is nothing racist about economic sanctions against a country which is in active conflict with our armed forces outside of their borders, which is actively engaged in psy-ops to destabilize American society. Economic sanctions against America would not be racism against scots/germans/west africans or whatever. You can argue against sanctions on all sorts of grounds, but the flimsiest is claiming that they're rac…
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Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s interesting to me that the US views Iran more harshly than Israel does.
It doesn't, the US is just Israel's proxy warrior in this fight. (cf. the Clean Break memo, etc)
> just Israel's proxy warrior in this fight
That's a charitable way to put it.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#294(slightly offtopic) imagine running "docker pull hello-world" and getting 403 because you were born in a wrong country I would be mad at the US if this happened to me
Why not be mad at the theocratic government that refuses to conform to international expectations, and allows its citizens to suffer for those actions?
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m a little confused at people who are mad at GitLab here. I’m under the impression that sanctions and export control laws tend to be fairly strict, and penalties for knowing non-compliance are harsh, including the possibility of jail time. GitLab’s hands are pretty tied here.
Gitlab isn’t originally a US company so there is zero reason for them to comply with US demands. Unfortunately it seems they’ve somehow transformed it into a US company with all attendant benefits and penalties. I’m assuming the benefits are in the form of cold hard cash, and the penalties are in the form of freedom.
Even if they were in the Netherlands ... the Netherlands is a member of NATO, so very likely the vast majority of those sanctions would stand.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
Purposely funding terrorism does go unpunished, if you're a US ally. This is my point, that our sanctions against Iran have nothing to do with "morality". They are about power.
Yes, that's what being allies is. We do stuff for them they do stuff for us. I don't think that's immoral. Cooperation allows us to accomplish incredible things. Cooperation is built on relationships and trust.
As in the US trust's them to fund terrorists in way that advantages us? Then yes, we agree on the state of the world. I just think it's bad.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
You might want to delete the "and the citizenry did nothing wrong" ending to your otherwise reasonable post. I don't think you meant it the way it sounds.
I am being misunderstood because of the wording I used. The reason "and the citizenry did nothing wrong" is problematic is because it implies that, unlike Crimea, the citizenry of countries _other_ than Crimea (Iran/Sudan/Cuba etc) _did_ do something wrong. I was not saying that the citizens of Crimea did something wrong: I was saying the opposite.
It was obvious and you are dealing with pedants
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#298(slightly offtopic) imagine running "docker pull hello-world" and getting 403 because you were born in a wrong country I would be mad at the US if this happened to me
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Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#299Who is the new company Gitlab has switched to, and why didn't Gitlab consider the consequences of their decision? Why doesn't Gitlab simply host their services outside US jurisdiction?
GitLab has used Google Cloud since 2018 and Microsoft Azure prior. Both cloud providers are required to comply with sanctions.
>Why doesn't Gitlab simply host their services outside US jurisdiction?
Because GitLab is a US company. They moved their headquarters to California (incorporated in Delaware) in 2014.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#300Quick note that anyone using a US based cloud provider will likely be blocking all sanctioned countries. It’s not configurable at all. It was a sticking point for us when deploying the sequel to a game I was working on. Ultimately we determined that the benefits of using the provider outweighed the benefit to users since we weren’t shipping the game there officially anyway. (With one notable exception) It still leave…
Does that mean Ali Cloud would be a better option here ?