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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by animal_spirits »

crazygringo wrote: post #282

I'm confused here about two things, and can't find any answers in the comments. 1) How is this different from a regular Firefox container you use for Facebook? 2) Firefox containers are essentially the same as Chrome profiles, right? I'm just trying to figure out what benefit this has over someone keeping Facebook inside a separate profile in Chrome. If Mozilla's trying to attract people from Chrome... I feel like th…

For 1: I'm pretty sure the regular firefox containers are an extension of the Facebook container. As I recall, Firefox first rolled out the Facebook container for Facebook + Instagram, and then later rolled out Multi-account containers which allowed user defined rules for custom containers

For 2: I'm not familiar with Chrome profiles, but Firefox has profiles as well. And with Firefox you can set up different container settings for different profiles. So you can have container settings for a "Home" profile and a separate container settings for a "Work" profile

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by shock »

jedberg wrote: post #243
shock wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Some websites basically crash the computer What does "crash the computer" mean? Do you get the MacOS equivalent of a BSOD?

Everything freezes, I can't use move the mouse. If I wait, sometimes I can hit Cmd-W and get the tab to close eventually, sometimes I literally have to do a hard power off.

I agree with the sibling comment, what you are describing sounds like you are running out of RAM. This happens to me with Firefox on a PC with 64GB of RAM and the cursor gets janky and I have to wait until some poor process gets killed and the PC becomes interactive again and I can restart Firefox.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by artificial »

ww520 wrote: post #230
mmcclure wrote: post #34

I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

Tooting my own horn :). Session Boss [1] saves the container information as part of the session and can restore the tabs in their respective containers. I use it to maintain multiple Gmail accounts and other email accounts in different containers. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/session-boss/

Sweet, I'll give it a go. I'm a huge fan of being able to export sessions, save them, query and suspend tabs.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by shock »

aflag wrote: post #263
shock wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The goal should not be to not be fingerprinted since that is a data point in itself, rather the goal should be to appear as a different browser after a short amount of time. There are extensions for Firefox that generate a new "fingerprint" periodically, e.g. 5 mins, for canvas, fonts, audio. Technically they don't generate the actual fingerprint, they add noise to the information that trackers use to generate the fi…

What's the extension name?

It's not one, but several: Canvas Defender, Font Fingerprint Defender, AudioContext Fingerprint Defender.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by smichel17 »

0-_-0 wrote: post #137

To do this for all sites you can enable First Party Isolation if Firefox by toggling privacy.firstparty.isolate in about:config, or have a UI button that toggles is through an addon [1]. I've been using it for years and it only seems to break some payment processors, and only rarely. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/first-party-i...

> I've been using it for years and it only seems to break some payment processors, and only rarely.

The majority of cookies don't break much at all. Or at least not that I notice; I've been blocking all cookies, including first party, for a few months, using uMatrix.

Obviously you need them for logins[1]. You need them on Twitter to view the old version of the site that doesn't require js. On YouTube, to view comments. To follow some redirects on the Android developer docs site.

[1] ...mostly. Some actually store all the login info in js state (and presumably localstorage?).

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by smichel17 »

marketingtech wrote: post #206
paulv wrote: post #202

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Couldn't you block all requests to Segment's integration point?

They use CNAME aliasing to make the requests seem like they're coming from your own domain, so you'd have block a specific URL on a site-by-site basis, and there are also fully server-side APIs so you don't even know when data is being captured or shared.

uMatrix has the option to unmask cnames.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by autoexec »

tialaramex wrote: post #287
neogodless wrote: post #275

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I'm confused. Containers work by URL. How do you use a different container per Google account?

The Facebook Container extension is special, it does a bunch of work to put all of Facebook and only Facebook inside the Facebook Container. Bits of Facebook trying to peak through outside Facebook (e.g. tracking pixels) are elided entirely. Which is exactly what I want. But ordinarily that's not the behaviour you get from a Firefox container. e.g. I have that Facebook Container, and I also have a Slack container I j…

> In Facebook, it's inside the Facebook container. Since the Facebook Container has no idea who I am,

wouldn't they know exactly who you are with every request sent to any of their servers and any facebook page you load either by your facebook account, IP address, or by browser fingerprinting.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by acolumb »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #16
cooljacob204 wrote: post #2

I'm finding more and more that it might finally be time to switch back to Firefox. Is Google still planning to destroy adblock with Manifest V3?

The time to switch back to Firefox was years ago. But better late than never.

The only asterisk to that statement would be if OP was a Mac user. Using Firefox for reddit and youtube nets me 4 hours of battery life on a 2020 13 inch MacBook Pro, while safari will get my 6.5-8 hours with the same usage.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by michel-slm »

neop1x wrote: post #281
super_seomis wrote: post #273

The ability to use plugins easily on mobile phone. That's why I choose firefox

Except they limited it with recent Firefox Mobile "updates" or "redesigns". AFAIK the last fully-featured FF Mobile on Android is 68.12.0. I have tried the most recent FF Mobile couple of weeks ago and there were only a small subset of add-ons supported and still no about:config.

yeah, I wonder when the Facebook container will make it to mobile - it's one of their own after all so there should be no safety issue.
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