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Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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> I can non-aggressively disenfranchise a group of people. How would you accomplish this non-aggressively, especially if the disenfranchised group resists?

I don't understand, can you clarify?

How can you non-aggressively disenfranchise a group of people? Further, how can you maintain non-aggression if the group you are attempting to disenfranchise resists your attempts to disenfranchise them (which would make clear that your attempt to do so is counter to their wishes, and thus aggressive).

If you try to do something to someone, and they tell you to stop or try to get you to stop, continuing to do the thing is an act of aggression.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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It's a purge. It won't stop with these three. The censorship will continue to get worse and be disproportionately applied to those on the right until all is left with the world. Conservatism has a place in society. I'm not endorsing any of these guys viewpoints nor am I associating them with conservatism in general, because it's a broad group of over 100 million people in the U.S. with a diverse range of opinions tha…

A purge of white supremacists sounds great to me.

sounds great to me to until I turned my brain on and realized that if you can purge one ideology, you can justify purging any other ideology.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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> So according to this rule, a racial minority can call members of a "majority race" sub-human, but not vice-versa. According to academia, this is correct: racism only exists in the context of class based oppression. Of course, many people disagree with this definition.

What does “academia” have to do with anything?

These redefinitions probably grew out of "critical theory" which is taught in social studies. The initial protests citing this line of argument seem to have started on college campuses, so there might be some merit to saying it grew out of academia.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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Have twitch and YouTube also followed Reddit in allowing hate speech again majority groups? I mean the action is coordinated but have the policies?

I don't think so, the policies are set by each social media company, but the targets of those policies are primarily determined by the SPLC and the ADL. This makes hate speech enforcement fair and uniform across all of the major social networks, and also reduces liability for the social networks since they can point to an objective 3rd-party as the cause of the suspensions.

The SPLC is a hate group

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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"Civil rights isn't politics", so, speech against civil rights isn't politically incorrect. (there's also definitely PC/P!C speech, but AFAIK that's not what's getting banned).

Thats a great trick just label anything you don't want debated a "right."

Thanks, learned from the best - the Declaration of Independence. /snark

In all seriousness, what do you view as debatable about civil rights?

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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This "adjacent" concept has no meaning. Paraphrasing a point I made on Twitter recently: - Richard Spencer: evil. Created 'alt right' movement. - Ben Shapiro: called 'alt right' because he's right wing - Joe Rogan: called 'alt right' because he talked to Ben - Bernie Sanders supporters: called 'alt right' because Joe endorsed Bernie. Ergo: by this logic Karl Marx could be considered 'alt right' Molyneaux might be awf…

He didn't "talk" to Ben, he broadcast Ben's ideas to millions of listeners (the majority of which happen to be white).

What is wrong with that? He did the same with Sanders and they were both interesting.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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Twitch and Reddit enacted bans simultaneously: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/29/reddit-bans-pro-tru... https://www.engadget.com/twitch-suspends-donald-trump-accoun... Seems odd for multiple independent companies to act in concert like this.

It is coordinated. Remember when Alex Jones got banned from literally everything on the same day? The reddit bans wave was leaked in advance. The more actors involved in a coordinated action the harder it is to keep a secret. Original leak: https://old.reddit.com/r/WatchRedditDie/comments/hh1pjd/redd...

"WatchRedditDie"? Hilarious. Everything reddit's done today makes me want to use the site more.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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It's a purge. It won't stop with these three. The censorship will continue to get worse and be disproportionately applied to those on the right until all is left with the world. Conservatism has a place in society. I'm not endorsing any of these guys viewpoints nor am I associating them with conservatism in general, because it's a broad group of over 100 million people in the U.S. with a diverse range of opinions tha…

>The problem is they are not approaching the left's extremists with the same fervor This is a false equivalence. The worst of the alt-right are far, far worse than the worst of the extreme left (antifa, maybe? Though there is no alt-left). Good riddance to them, I say. If you want to lead the KKK, and advocate for a white ethnostate, I won't lose any sleep when you can't post videos trying to convince others of the s…

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Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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It's a purge. It won't stop with these three. The censorship will continue to get worse and be disproportionately applied to those on the right until all is left with the world. Conservatism has a place in society. I'm not endorsing any of these guys viewpoints nor am I associating them with conservatism in general, because it's a broad group of over 100 million people in the U.S. with a diverse range of opinions tha…

I have a vision for what could end up happening. We will see a bifurcation of Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and Reddit into a conservative and liberal version. There appear to be many (apparently unsuccessful) attempts right now to do exactly that. The recent swath of bans could change that however. It's not too dissimilar to message board culture from the aughts. You essentially had federated versions of Reddit. It lo…

those day weren't all that bad. The nazi wannabe's had their own place, and almost everyone believed in Godwin's rule.
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