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Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by jasonpeacock »

athenot wrote: post #236
close04 wrote: post #217

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What are the chances a small seller will be financially able to litigate with Amazon? And even if they do and win, what are the chances they're in a better position than before, meaning it's not a Pyrrhic victory? Edit. These are actual questions, the US legal system is very unkind with those without very deep pockets, having the highest litigation costs in the world.

I don't know the specifics and I'm no lawyer but for the amount involved, could Small Claims court be an option? No lawyers involved and if Amazon doesn't send a rep, there can be a default judgement.

There still exists the problem of collecting the judgement.

How are you going to force a large company to pay if they are already ignoring you?

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Post by freedomben »

close04 wrote: post #217
erikw wrote: post #212

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The incentive to care (in the US at least) is called tort law. Punitive damages against a company the size of Amazon for what sounds to me like theft should be very large. I'm sure that a lawyer would be interested in taking up this case, based on the size of the potential settlement.

What are the chances a small seller will be financially able to litigate with Amazon? And even if they do and win, what are the chances they're in a better position than before, meaning it's not a Pyrrhic victory? Edit. These are actual questions, the US legal system is very unkind with those without very deep pockets, having the highest litigation costs in the world.

I have a friend that is a minor celebrity and has controversial opinions and thus has been sued a lot (mostly frivolous, one or two semi-legit) and he will straight up tell you: the winner is the person with the most money.

If one party has deep pockets and the other does not, the rich guy wins. He can drag things out in court forever making it cost more than the small guy has to keep going. In the end so much is subjective anyway, and the high priced lawyers will get their way.

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Post by Silhouette »

chrisseaton wrote: post #281
Silhouette wrote: post #276

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Almost nobody pays for anything with cash in the UK anymore. I think this is an illusion. Sure, if you're going into almost any shop it will accept other payment methods and most people will use them, particularly at the moment. Similarly, ordering anything online isn't likely to be cash-on-delivery. However, there are still reasons people might need or prefer to pay or be paid in cash, only one of which is "I'm a do…

> They often like to be paid in cash, at least for the first visit or two, so everyone immediately knows it's all above board. Paying people in cash seems like the exact opposite of an indicator of everything being above board.

Not really. It's in your hand, right now. It can't be disputed later and retrospectively yanked back out of your bank account, or not paid out to you in the first place if you use an intermediary payment service. These are not hypothetical problems.

It's also a traditional sign of honesty, and a convenient way for someone who has provided very good service to be tipped without making a big deal of it ("Keep the change"), and both of those things can be important in these kinds of situations.

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Post by syshum »

jcfields wrote: post #116
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #64

And Apple is not even an isolated case. Google will close gmail accounts, take away adsense revenues, or remove youtube videos on a whim. Visa blocked users from giving their money to political causes they decided didn't aligned with their view of the world. For years Microsoft made it super hard to buy hardware without paying the Windows licence. They killed xbox remotely. They have invasive telemetry in Win 10. Pay…

Amazon suspended my parents' seller account last August or September with no explanation. All listings removed, couldn't log in, no direct customer service number that connects you with someone who knows what's going on, and kept taking the monthly fee anyway. Finally, they closed it entirely (again without explanation) a month or two ago. They're still holding their inventory in their distribution centers, probably…

Your Parents need to look in Small Claims Court, this is often the BEST way to fight a large company because they often will not even show up and if they do in most Small Claims court they can not send a Laywer it has a be a company rep, and the burden is lower

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Post by syshum »

jasonpeacock wrote: post #291
athenot wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know the specifics and I'm no lawyer but for the amount involved, could Small Claims court be an option? No lawyers involved and if Amazon doesn't send a rep, there can be a default judgement.

There still exists the problem of collecting the judgement. How are you going to force a large company to pay if they are already ignoring you?

Judgements are something more than just a Customer Service issue. There are ways to compel payment via the same court system once you have a judgement, and any additional fees you incur attempting to collect can be claimed as well making them pay the fee's

Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by syshum »

philliphaydon wrote: post #153
NullPrefix wrote: post #122

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You can already do that on your website. Check if client IP matches and then don't print JS that loads ads

For parked domains you can't tho, you point the domains to google adsense.

I dont know how to do it effectively but domain Parking should be disallowed.

Use the domain, or let some one else.

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Post by syshum »

andy_ppp wrote: post #271
Red_Leaves_Flyy wrote: post #162

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There is not a person, alive, dead, or not yet born that I would trust to write such code.

As opposed to politicians who take bribes in the form of campaign donations?

This is the self driving care problem

People want a perfect system to replace an imperfect one. When instead they should rationally look at it and ask "is it better than what we have now" instead they pick it apart for any flaws then proclaim that is not workable because it is not 100% perfect every time

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Post by syshum »

pschastain wrote: post #150
nickflood wrote: post #131

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Competition in a government space would be a good thing, imo. For a while at least. Beats being quite permanently attached to a shitty gov at birth.

Kinda what voting is for - to change the current gov't.

Depends on the type of voting employed.

First Past the Post (what most nations us) is not a way to pick a true representative official, it breads defensive voting, vote spoiling, and all kinds of other problems where you end up in a spiral of worse and worse people, and where everyone says "I do not want either option but...."

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Post by philliphaydon »

syshum wrote: post #296
philliphaydon wrote: post #153

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For parked domains you can't tho, you point the domains to google adsense.

I dont know how to do it effectively but domain Parking should be disallowed. Use the domain, or let some one else.

I had ideas for the domains. Just no time to do it. In the end I let them go. I have 3 ones. Blog. And 2 in progress projects.

I didn’t squat them. Parking for future use is ok to me. Squatting for profit i don’t agree with.

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Post by jedieaston »

fareesh wrote: post #156

From what I understand, in the free market system we consider things to be anti-competitive, anti-consumer, etc. when a corporation has some kind of market dominance acquired through earning the trust of consumers, and once they have obtained that trust, they abuse it by imposing a set of self-serving conditions on the market which serves their own interest in some way at the cost of some other player in the market -…

The App Store is different than in your example. In your example, I could put up a store myself called Toilet Paper Warehouse, and probably be successful in that town given that nobody else sells the toilet paper consumers desire. Whereas if the App Store is Walmart, then the iPhone is the town, but the town has a law on the books that says "No stores except Walmart can be in this town!". Consumers don't get the toilet paper they value, and Walmart can control the supply. In exchange, Walmart makes sure that nobody sells toilet paper with poison ivy on it, and guarantees that residents will have to go to the bathroom less than if they sold non-Walmart toilet paper.

The problem is that the iPhone itself isn't a monopoly. You can buy an Android phone that can access any store and install any app you want, so monopoly law doesn't apply (in the strictest sense). Now, one could say that you shouldn't have to move towns just because your favorite toilet paper isn't sold. But as it stands today, you have to, as I understand it. (With that being said, Apple, start acting right.)

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