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Re: New iPhone SE

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post #159

Glad to see a non faceID option. I'm on an 11 Pro currently, will probably sidegrade to this. FaceID is incredibly unreliable in my opinion, and it almost always takes more time that touchID did. Furthermore, "Reachability" (the feature where you slide the UI down for easy access with one hand) is much more difficult to access and dismiss with no home button. It's rare I don't accidentally invoke some UI action when…

I’ve had the opposite experience with Face ID. Touch ID for me worked maybe 1/10 times. Something about my fingers, it would never work. I had to enter the passcode every time. Face ID on the other hand works consistently every time, all the time. I nearly never have issues.

I do miss old reachability though. I can never activate it on the first try.

Re: New iPhone SE

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post #235

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

Agreed. In terms of form the iPhone 5 was best. The last iphone that could be used one-handed.

If they'd have minimal bezels, for comfort, in an iPhone 5 body we'd have about ~5.2" available for the screen. Unfortunately keeping the bezels for the fingerprint reader, earpiece, and front camera (~60% screen to body ratio) means that while it would fit better in small hands, the small screen may not give a great experience with today's content (sites, apps), or our eyes.

My old iPod Touch 5th gen. was quite a shocker for everyone who nostalgically reminisced about the good old times of small screens. I guess it depends what one expects from the phone.

Re: New iPhone SE

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post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There have usually been smaller androids available. But people didn't buy them in enough numbers to make them a thriving sector AFAICT. Samsung used to do the Galaxy Mini line, Sony always had smaller xperia's... But most folks seem to want a bigger, shinier screen. That's not to say you're wrong in your desires, it's just they might not be widely shared. I also hope this does well. It's a nice looking unit.

Most of the time those smaller form factor Android phone have had lackluster CPU, mediocre battery life, and crappy cameras. The SE is very close to a flagship product in terms of performance.

Indeed, I think it's been a vicious circle of lack of demand leading to lacklustre products.

This phone does look close to flagship in terms of cpu etc, though may be missing various features - multiple cameras etc - compared to actual flagships.

I'd like a tiny flagship....

Re: New iPhone SE

#295
post #68

The old iPhone SE had two things that appealed to me (and anecdotally, that appealed to some of my friends): 1. it was small-ish 2. it had a headphone jack Without those I don't see this as a viable followup product.

What're you using now?

I bought an S10e a while back because I didn't want to use iOS anymore. At the time it was the smallest Android phone with a headphone jack.

It's decent hardware, a little too large, and with some terrible Samsung-bloatware on it - not ideal, but there are no alternatives.

Re: New iPhone SE

#296
I wonder how much of the form factor was determined by:

(a) space required by newer components (b) leftover (i.e. unsold) iPhone 8 materials

Re: New iPhone SE

#297
post #137

RIP to Apple's single greatest design, the iPhone 5 form factor.

Maybe you should give an Xperia a shot? https://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3189309/apple-sony-iphone... I'm only halfway joking since looking at their newest handset is still fairly reminiscent with the flat edges: https://www.sony.com/electronics/smartphones/xperia-1m2?cpin...

The cost of switching ecosystems is too high for most of us. Loss of iMessage alone is a non starter for me personally.

Re: New iPhone SE

#298
Is there any confirmation that this phone will/won't support 5G? It seems to be omitted in the marketing materials.

While multiple years of OS support would be nice in this form factor, not being able to use 5G data would be a big negative in terms of this being "futureproofed".

Re: New iPhone SE

#299

They rereleased the iPhone 6. What's there to be excited about? This has nothing on the original SE.

It has upgraded internals, no? So it's the iPhone 6 with some beefier insides, just like the original SE.

But yes, it has nothing on the original SE, since it has the same size as the iPhone 8...

Re: New iPhone SE

#300
post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses FaceID works with and without my glasses. I can't remember if it learned this automatically, or if I added it as an "alternative appearance." Does the Pixel 4 have any options like that?

FaceID is designed to work with or without glasses. > Face ID is designed to work with hats, scarves, glasses, contact lenses, and many sunglasses. Furthermore, it's designed to work indoors, outdoors, and even in total darkness. https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT208108

If it’s sunglasses with a strong filter, or possibly unfortunate polarization, it may cause some issues I believe.
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