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Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by sneak » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:23 AM UTC

aclarry wrote: post #256

sneak wrote: post #251

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Loading a webpage is not a show of support for the operators of that webpage. I have in the past loaded Gab, 8chan, and Facebook in my browser. Am I “linked to” the users of those platforms that have committed mass murder?

No, not if you "loaded in the past". But if you have recently engaged positively with it, sure. Plus that's kind of two degrees removed from the original comment. If someone who does a horrible thing cites a community as a motivation/inspiration, yeah that group should absolutely at least think about what that says about them. It's not an immediate condemnation of guilt, but if there's strong evidence that that commu…

> No, not if you "loaded in the past". But if you have recently engaged positively with it, sure.

There was a lady who used YouTube in April 2018 who went to Google and shot three people. I recently engaged positively with YouTube. I also engaged positively with YouTube in April 2018.

Am I linked to a shooter simply because we used and enjoyed the same content on the same website?

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by xenophonium » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:58 PM UTC

SauciestGNU wrote: post #213

commandlinefan wrote: post #181

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Do you have any examples of 'intent to incite violence' from t_d?

The mods of t_d stickied a recruiting post for the deadly Unite the Right rally in which it was readily acknowledged that their users would be joining ranks with actual Nazis.

They suggested that people attend a legally permitted protest march? Didn't they realise that only leftists have constitutional rights???!!!

And the idea that you get to say that because one mentally ill person who went to the march decided entirely alone to attack people, that every single person attending the march is guilty?

I bet you'd apply those standards to people marching for a cause you agree with, wouldn't you?

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by xenophonium » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:01 PM UTC

ehsankia wrote: post #144

defertoreptar wrote: post #118

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> This is only for being a moderator. Simply upvoting posts (that don't break any rules) in quarantined subreddits does not get you punished. That was a requirement given for being a new mod at /r/the_donald. There is also a separate, new rule change revealed in the recent "Transparency Report" that says that users who consistently upvote rule-breaking content will be banned. > The whole point of a quarantine is exac…

I'm sorry but this is classic tinfoil conspiracy theorizing. I do regularly check T_D out of curiosity, and almost every single time I see rule breaking comments in top posts. Threats of violence, doxxing, etc. If you can find similar content on left leaning subreddits on a regular basis that doesn't get reported and deleted right away, then I'd be happy to entertain your theory, but I have not seen it. Also, the Don…

Yeah, because r/anarchism, a sub run by people who literally want to be executing people in the streets in the name of revolution, totally doesn't have far more extreme users who post far more extreme content all the time and get away with it.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by xenophonium » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:05 PM UTC

ehsankia wrote: post #144

defertoreptar wrote: post #118

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> This is only for being a moderator. Simply upvoting posts (that don't break any rules) in quarantined subreddits does not get you punished. That was a requirement given for being a new mod at /r/the_donald. There is also a separate, new rule change revealed in the recent "Transparency Report" that says that users who consistently upvote rule-breaking content will be banned. > The whole point of a quarantine is exac…

I'm sorry but this is classic tinfoil conspiracy theorizing. I do regularly check T_D out of curiosity, and almost every single time I see rule breaking comments in top posts. Threats of violence, doxxing, etc. If you can find similar content on left leaning subreddits on a regular basis that doesn't get reported and deleted right away, then I'd be happy to entertain your theory, but I have not seen it. Also, the Don…

Yeah it's tinfoil hat to think that leftists like to ban dissenting opinions, this thread isn't full of lots of people who agree with that approach or anything.

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Post by xenophonium » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM UTC

snowron6 wrote: post #169

handedness wrote: post #64

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Sure. But selective enforcement of rules on a platform undermines its value as a platform.

If anything, the_donald has gotten preferential treatment compared to everyone else. They've routinely broke rules and ignored warnings from admins. If any other subreddit did what they've done it'd be banned instantly. Instead Reddit keeps giving r/T_D leeway because they don't want to seem biased. Here's a list from a year ago of rules they've broken: https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/851r...

Here's a list from a far left subreddit that itself constantly break reddit's rules about brigading and yet gets away with it!

Laughable.

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Post by xenophonium » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:12 PM UTC

lukebitts wrote: post #162

skocznymroczny wrote: post #138

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Deletion will come around election time. Can't have users exposed to non-leftist point of view.

Is that why they are banning /r/conservative? Right... they are not

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Post by charwalker » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 4:37 PM UTC

blackflame7000 wrote: post #219

charwalker wrote: post #201

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This sub is popular among a small group but overall despised by the community. It openly flaunts the site rules and promotes content that draws a black eye from media attention. The current moves are though to be aimed at stifling the sub until it dies off vs a full ban as that would quickly draw headiness even though Youtube got the legal go ahead vs free speech rights just this week.

It's one of the largest subreddits there is but yea "small group"

I meant in terms of overall Reddit users. If it is the 6th most popular web site in the US then however many active, non bot subs this subreddit has is minor and probably makes up a much larger percent of reports and issues than it should. It can't buy awards or make ad revenue (while quarantined) so is a huge cost center and time drain as well.

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Post by charwalker » Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 4:41 PM UTC

derision wrote: post #222

charwalker wrote: post #194

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Similary the conservative subreddit has a rule stating it is not a debate platform and dissent or debate will be removed. It's an echo chamber of self-victimization that probably sees the Youtube case earlier this week on first amendment application as both a win for private companies and a loss of what they consider their right to free speech.

The same echo chambers exist on the left. I was banned almost immediately from the Bernie subreddit for asking why he's running on a platform of getting money out of politics while at the same time being the most aggressive campaign when it comes to requesting donations. The "I am once again asking for your financial support" meme perfectly captures this.

Yeah, those are not the same thing and your point would be sen as disingenuous unless you were asking about the difference vs stating them as the same.

Hes running to get big/dark/foreign money out of politics ad is funded 100% by citizen/supporter donations not special interests.

He could push for a public funding system to eliminate both types but would need either careful legislation, a supreme court reversal, or a constitutional amendment (and probably both the first 2 to work long term anyway).

On top of that, the conservative subreddit literally has rules about it not being a place of debate or questions. Compare it to the Bernie sub rules and see if you can spot how once again both sides are not the same.