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18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by StavrosK »

readhn wrote: post #284
StavrosK wrote: post #133

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So I wanted to link my 23 year old website, but precisely because it's still updated, it looks like this: https://www.stavros.io/ It's gone through many renames and redesigns, but, in true Japanese style, it's still the same website. I do have an old snapshot, though: https://anonymoussoftware.stavros.io/

>> Greek. Amateur F1 driver. Technology enthusiast. Single parent. Liar. thats quite a conversation starter...

Yes, everyone always has lots of fun trying to spot the lies.

Hint: "Liar" is the lie.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

fjfaase wrote: post #232

Mine, in plain HTML, is almost 25 years old. I have to admit that I did change the layout a little, through the years, but it has been rather constant, because updating 974 HTML files, is not something that is easily done.

It's pretty easily done? Strip out everything but body, make a wrapper to include the pages? Any static bits you can search-replace, that's what I used to do before discovering server-side includes.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by calrueb »

oftenwrong wrote: post #170

There is a search engine dedicated to finding "classic" websites: https://wiby.me/ Click the "surprise me..." link to see a random one.

This is a fantastic site. I'm a little worried about using the "surprise me" feature at work, but I will return to this in my free time. I wonder what website attributes it looks for when it indexes.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by scarface74 »

cptskippy wrote: post #285
scarface74 wrote: post #249

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Apple shipped the last 32 bit Mac in 2006 over 10 years before 32 bit software wasn’t supported. There were plenty of FireWire to Thunderbolt adapters. No the closest ancestor to MacOS X is System 7. There were Carbon APIs until last year. A poster up thread said they could use an emulator. There are 68K Mac emulators available too. AppleScript for instance is a System 7 technology - not a NextStep technology.

> the closest ancestor to MacOS X is System 7. How do you figure? System 7 was part of the Classic Mac OS line, the last of that line was System 9 (Mac OS 9). This was a proprietary kernel developed by Apple. Mac OS X is a Unix based OS derived from technologies they acquired from NeXT. To say MacOS X is an ancestor of System 7 seems completely nonsensical.

No MacOS X when it was originally released had parts from NextStep and parts ported from Classic MacOS including QuickDraw, AppleScript, QuickTime, some audio frameworks etc.

The entire Carbon API was a port of classic MacOS APIs to make porting from classic MacOS to OS X easier.

MacOS X was a combination of both. That was the whole brouhaha of why Apple ported Carbon APIS to OS X because major developers like Adobe and Microsoft insisted on it.

That’s not to mention that the first 5 versions of MacOS had an entire OS 9 emulator built in.

To take the analogy to the extreme. MacOS had two parents - Classic MacOS and NextStep.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by nonamenoslogan »

randomdude402 wrote: post #196
ath92 wrote: post #166

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While this website still works fine, the actual HTML that Frontpage generated isn't exactly easy to maintain if Frontpage stops working for whatever reason. The author of this website is basically stuck using whatever version of Frontpage supports the markup of his website. And I bet there have been plenty of people who used who are no longer able to maintain their website because their editor no longer runs on their…

I know a person who is maintaining a few sites she built in like 2005 with a version of Dreamweaver a little older than that, so never dares to upgrade the Dreamweaver version. The whole thing is terrifying and horrific to me, but they keep paying her to do the work so she's fine with it.

I actually just finished redesigning my site with static HTML using Dreamweaver 2004 on an iBook G4. Why? Why not? My little brother passed away a couple years ago and I inherited his iBook, and I have decided its going to be my personal laptop from here out even if all I use it for is VNC to one of my other computers. Plus, as mentioned above it can still run all that delicious old Mac stuff from System 7 through OSX 10.4.xx and its all "abandonware" now, yet in many cases still VERY usable.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by olyjohn »

Santosh83 wrote: post #210
generationP wrote: post #200

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Can't you just keep editing the html in a text editor? Frontpage's generated html isn't that unreadable.

Presumably the author used a WYSIWYG editor in the first place because he is not a technical person, so for him/her to now not only learn enough HTML/CSS/javascript to turn to hand editing but to also understand Frontpage's noisy output would probably take enough effort that they might rather decide to shut down the site if they're not able to continue using Frontpage. Hiring a dev to redo the site is another option…

I ended up learning more HTML by having FrontPage, because it would regularly fuck everything up and I'd have to go fix it by hand.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by nostromo »

chipperyman573 wrote: post #246
dwheeler wrote: post #186

My personal site was posted on September 12, 1999, is still updated, and has no problems. It;s a static site that mostly uses straight HTML/CSS. There are a few scripts that generate pages, but generating HTML/CSS pretty easy. https://dwheeler.com . Geocrasher said: > I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to build a site to last 25 years without numerous redesigns, build a static HTML page. Yes. I don't get pai…

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