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U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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So, doing business in the US is only good for you if you hire non-US workers? Not a lot of sympathy for that, really.

Yep. If they don't want US workers, it seems the logical thing to do would be to move the business out of the US.

Almost as though companies want to hire the best person for the job...

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> In short we Indians bought this upon ourselves. I was with you till here. No, we did not bring this to ourselves. The answer is that USA has dumb policies.

The reason for the backlog is the US is trying to get a diverse set of immigrants to the US. Any one country can’t get more than 5% of permanent visas in a given year. If it wasn’t for that, 80% of people getting green cards would be Indian and Chinese.

That's a pretty ridiculous policy when China and India are a third of the world's population.

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People who can be paid less due to being tied to visas/desperation may be a boon to shareholders but not to the job market for locals.

Who are willing to work more unpaid overtime, as well. No matter how much you pay American citizens, they obnoxiously demand work-life balance that foreign visa holders in fear of losing their work status don’t.

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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Yep. If they don't want US workers, it seems the logical thing to do would be to move the business out of the US.

Almost as though companies want to hire the best person for the job...

Where "best" = "cheapest", true.

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I moved to Toronto, then to SF. Thought I'd also share my anecdata here. I used to make ~100k/yr CAD (75k/yr USD) when I was in TO around 6 years ago. I bought a house around 7 years ago for 550k. I did a remote stint for a Boulder company for a couple years (~120k/yr USD working from TO), then moved to SF (~200k/yr USD + ~100k/yr equity). I'm a bit out of the loop w/ TO salaries nowadays, but your 170k CAD definitel…

> Goods generally cost less in SF. Milk costs ~$5/gallon USD in SF vs $10/4L CAD ($7 USD) in TO. I regularly pick up a 4 L bag of 1% for about CAD 4.25 (USD 3.00). Where the heck are you doing your grocery shopping, the food hall at Holt Renfrew?

To be nitpicky, $5 is too high of an estimate: https://ballotpedia.org/Milk_prices_by_state,_2018

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How's the weather there though? Can we just stop comparing cities? Everyone loves to complain about the cost of living in SF and always brags about how they could buy a mansion in the midwest. No one cares. It's all about location. There is a reason why California is the most populous state in the union despite it being so expensive (weather and jobs). There is a reason the population in the midwest is so low (lack o…

I can’t see why people would want to move to SF City for the weather. California? YES. Definitely. Even the Bay Area yup. But the City? Erm...

SF has it's "the coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco" days in the summer and its share of grey and damp in the winter. On the other hand, it doesn't really get the heat that the valleys can get so it's a tradeoff.

I live in a northern snow state and, other than the relative lack of seasons, SF city weather seems pretty nice to me and not even obviously worse than the South Bay.

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The drop from 92% to 75% isn’t the complete story, or even the more important story. The real problem is all the other nonsense people have to deal with. We have a really great employee who single handedly wrote most of the company’s build infrastructure, and was happy in the US on his H1B because while it requires renewal every 3 years, he was well paid and enjoying his life. Until about a year and a half ago when h…

Why your company and employee didn't start H1B to green card conversion process?

Green cards are a joke. For some countries they are effectively impossible to get in your lifetime. That's why we have this H1B nonsense in the first place.

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As unfortunate as this is, I think this only applies to Indians and Chinese. I was surprised to see Yoluk did not want to bother applying to jobs in the US. I am a foreign person from ROW (Rest of the World) in the US studying with F1 visa and trying to immigrate here via employment based options. I have friends who also immigrated to Germany and Britain. The process is definitely easier and guaranteed there but for…

I keep being head hunted to work on SF/SV. And my reply is basically automatic and always the same: "Due to US external policy and cost of life I can't see it being financially practical to move. Although, I would gladly consider any remote position." I think the immigration complexity is the lesser problem there. My research based on housing, school, transport and food tells me it looks like absurdly expensive. To b…

It doesn’t happen via salary, it happens via stock. Work at a big co over the last decade or so and you’ve seen salary increase at 10% year or so and stock increase much faster. It’s very common for senior engineers in the Bay Area to be earning 175k salary, ~30k bonus, and another 150+ in stock vesting per year. High performers and/or workers at FAANGs do better than that. See levels.fyi for concrete examples.

The whole thing here is stock, which takes a couple years to really stack up, but once it does, you’re making a lot of money.

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That’s taking a huge efficiency hit over using batteries while costing more money. What’s the goal?

Liquid hydrogen and liquid ammonia have almost 10x the energy density of current battery technology. If you could go all the way to synthesized hydrocarbons it's another 2x. I'm not sure efficiency matters that much when you have far more energy production capacity than you need but it's concentrated in places and times where you can't use it. As for costing more: compared to what ? Batteries don't seem like an econo…

Energy density is a mostly useless metric for grid storage. It's installed in a place where land is cheap so if its bulky who cares? Efficiency and simplicity are the main goals. You want something that doesn't waste much power and doesn't require a huge team of experts to keep running or cost an absolute fortune to install

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Currently the exchange rate is .77, so $170k CAD is $128,025.30 USD. That's nothin to shake a stick at, but by NYC, DC, Seattle, LA, SF, etc. rates it is middling. Meanwhile, SDE2 at Amazon or others is like $200K USD, at least according to HN a year ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18439144 Seattle is expensive as hell these days, but Vancouver still blows it out of the water, and Toronto isn't cheap either…

Sure, I'm not saying I couldn't make more if I left Toronto. As a Canadian, it would be easy for me to do that. Most of my office could easily get jobs in the USA paying more. Even those with potential visa issues have a much easier time once they're established in Canada. But we don't. The marginal increase in my pay is not enough for me to want to move to the USA. The anti-immigrant rhetoric and the laws that follo…

That's not marginal, that's damn near 40%, ballpark of 80k USD per year difference. That's close to $100K CAD per year.

And while the current state of play in the US is rather odious, the idea that you'd be less secure or safe in somewhere like NYC or SF is laughable. The only places I've even been accosted on the street were in Melbourne, Australia and Brampton, Ontario. The rhetoric and laws you dread are mostly, or entirely, perception; make no mistake they're a thing, but heavily magnified by a media machine based on getting eyeballs and reactions. Like, the Prairie Provinces are solidly conservative -- AB even took a crack at banning gay marriage a little while back -- and ON managed to vote in yet another Ford.

I'm happy to sit out the Trump years north of the border, but if an offer with another $100K on top of what I'm making now floated my way but required me to be in California, or NYC, or DC, I'd be hard pressed to ignore it.

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