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Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by tripzilch »

_f9cu wrote: post #278
jasonlaster11 wrote: post #194

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Team member here. Firefox Replay is currently in user research phase while we validate it. Cross platform support will absolutely be a priority when Replay is on the official roadmap. Thanks for the feedback, firefox-replay.com is also a work in progress. We did not plan an official release today. We'll be sure to make the Mac OS limitation more clear. Here is some more context on the mac specific functionality ( htt…

What benefits it provides than record and playback using a screen recorder?

Retroactive logging.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by digitarald »

varenc wrote: post #259
dessant wrote: post #239

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The initial version of the site gave a good overview of Firefox Replay: https://web.archive.org/web/20191128111509/https://firefox-r...

Note: You can try out Firefox Reply on a macOS in Firefox nightly: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/ Firefox removed the content that tells you this. It's odd that they did that... My guess is that all this attention was a premature launch, and they were hoping to make news with Firefox Replay later. (US Thanksgiving day isn't exactly ideal...)

Correct on premature launch! Handling all the excitement was fun though while preparing food. There is a lot more work and research needed before rolling this out further.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by varenc »

digitarald wrote: post #292
varenc wrote: post #259

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Note: You can try out Firefox Reply on a macOS in Firefox nightly: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/ Firefox removed the content that tells you this. It's odd that they did that... My guess is that all this attention was a premature launch, and they were hoping to make news with Firefox Replay later. (US Thanksgiving day isn't exactly ideal...)

Correct on premature launch! Handling all the excitement was fun though while preparing food. There is a lot more work and research needed before rolling this out further.

Awesome job with it! The tech is fascinating. I got it working, somewhat, myself. And thanks for confirming my suspicion! It sure looked like one =)

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by Seirdy »

bscphil wrote: post #288
Seirdy wrote: post #262

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I'm really disappointed that Linux gets less attention from FOSS-supportive organizations like Mozilla. Desktop Linux adoption is a catch-22: people don't use it because it doesn't have as much software; however, it has less software because it's less popular.

Yep. It's noteworthy that over 10% of Mozilla's users are on Linux. [1] And presumably that only includes users who submit the hardware report. That's a huge portion for any cross-platform application. It's genuinely rather surprising that they don't give it more attention simply because it's a large portion of their user base, and because Linux users are more likely to submit bug reports and patches. [1] https://new…

I think there are good ideological reasons to support Linux, BSD, and other FOSS operating systems, not despite, but because of their unpopularity [0].

Edit: to clarify, I refer to operating systems that have a considerable amount of potential and existing development, not systems with like 2 users .

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21660819

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by bad_user »

tripzilch wrote: post #290
bad_user wrote: post #55

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Developers in general are very influential. Not only among our family and friends, but also because our choices create a lock-in effect due to the nature of our work. When you use Chrome day in and out, your work is going to be optimized for Chrome and will work best on Chrome. This led to a Chrome-optimized web and while Google isn't necessarily to blame, we're back to the days of " works best in IExplorer 6 ". Comp…

> This led to a Chrome-optimized web and while Google isn't necessarily to blame-- Uh that seems to imply that Google has not been striving to accomplish exactly that. Because they surely haven't been working to prevent a browser engine mono culture. Which is kind of your only option, if your browser engine holds an absolute majority of usage and you don't want to be "to blame" for the browser engine mono culture. Se…

I don't understand your point.

When you build a product, the purpose is to get customers / users, as many as possible. And when you win a majority market share, then that will make your product a de facto standard.

Google could have introduced a lot of proprietary, non-standard extensions to Chrome (not Chromium, but Chrome itself, aka the proprietary version), screwing everybody else in the process. Think Microsoft's ActiveX or XAML.

And while there are some glaring exceptions — like Chrome being responsible for the standardization of DRM, which is now keeping smaller open source Chromium forks out of the market, Google has been playing nice with web standards organizations, being major contributors, alongside Mozilla. And sure, they are in a position to impose pretty much anything they want, but they are fairly conservative in picking their battles, PNaCL versus WebAssembly comes to mind.

Google might be guilty of anti-competitive practices, but in my opinion it is the software developers themselves that are to blame for a Chrome-optimized web. This is because they (we?) continue to use Chrome for optimizing and testing web interfaces, while neglecting Firefox and Safari.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by thw0rted »

_f9cu wrote: post #278
jasonlaster11 wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Team member here. Firefox Replay is currently in user research phase while we validate it. Cross platform support will absolutely be a priority when Replay is on the official roadmap. Thanks for the feedback, firefox-replay.com is also a work in progress. We did not plan an official release today. We'll be sure to make the Mac OS limitation more clear. Here is some more context on the mac specific functionality ( htt…

What benefits it provides than record and playback using a screen recorder?

Based on the linked MDN page (from the current top-rated comment) it sounds like the main point of this is to have a rewind-able debugger.

Re: Firefox Replay

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Post by thw0rted »

Terretta wrote: post #263
sincerely wrote: post #255

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Well if you can only virtualize it on a computer that's already running macos I don't know how that's supposed to help.

You can virtualize on a PC. Whether you may or not, depends whether you believe you own software. And how it helps when you do it on MacOS on Mac hardware is letting you do all the things you virtualize an OS for, from a fine GUI on a decent kernel.

> all the things you virtualize an OS for

One of the main things I "virtualize an OS for" is to use software that requires Platform A on a system that runs Platform B. Running "legit" (authorized) virtualized MacOS does not help me do that; I am only allowed to run Platform A on Platform A.

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