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An update on YC China

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Re: An update on YC China

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Post by addictedcs »

archibaldJ wrote: post #227

OP here (no affiliation with YC in anyway), posted the link because was surprised it wasn't already on HN. I first got to know about it on WeChat actually. There was an announcement from the official WeChat account of YC China in regard to the split-up (link: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/SnSsli_ZGo0yI58YD-ddaw ), though the announcement took a much more positive and exciting tone than its English counterpart. The annou…

It's the same narrative all over again. When no strong arguments are present to defend a viewpoint, the topic suddenly becomes a "cultural" thing. Sounding smart and mysterious. In Russia, it's "the Russian way", in China it is "the Chinese way" etc. It's just BS.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by throwaway423342 »

colechristensen wrote: post #265
throwaway423342 wrote: post #252

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Can the US stay away from this? > park an aircraft carrier group in HK waters. This is called invasion. What is your incentive in supporting an invasion?

>What is your incentive in supporting an invasion? Isolationism and appeasement post-WWI leading to the next, disastrous world war which could have been avoided or significantly diminished with early intervention.

By provoking people, threatening to send aircraft carriers?

The fact is this is just a leverage US is holding on to to win the trade war.

Human rights have been the excuse the US used to wage war against multiple middle east countries in the past 30 years, eventually for its own benefit, and causing huge sufferings to people in these countries.

No one can say no to 'supporting human rights', but you'd be naive to think the US cares about human rights more than it does about benefiting itself and inflicting suffering on other countries.

Also, maybe it's turning out that building the wall is not that profitable after all.

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Post by celticninja »

big_chungus wrote: post #155
dmix wrote: post #90

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It look's like every other people's republic. I don't see why China is different.

Exactly. I think the term, "people's republic" is connotative of the worst kind of brutal socialist/communist autocracy.

Yeah, if you have to name yourself 'peoples republic' or 'democratic republic', you can be sure that the so named entityfits neither description.

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

undefined3840 wrote: post #282
bg4 wrote: post #248

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> It’s understandable it’s a touchy subject. Why piss off China if you don’t have to? Only something to lose and nothing to gain. I know right? I mean, it's not my liver that's being harvested...

You act like that doesn’t happen here...I just read a story in the LA times on how organs are being harvested from the recently deceased before a proper investigation can take place

The organs of members of marginalized groups detained in Chinese prison camps are being forcefully harvested — sometimes when patients are still alive, an international tribunal sitting in London has concluded.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-forcefully-harvests...

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Post by edwinyzh »

SandersAK wrote: post #45

Personally I was really disappointed when YC opened up shop in China - to me it really revealed a Profits over People approach and was pretty brazen at the time. Happy to see (for whatever reason) that they're recommitting to communities that (at least on the surface) don't support fascist overtures.

>>"recommitting to communities that (at least on the surface) don't support fascist overtures"

Sorry, but what you said is quite different from my conclusion from comparing a country which starts wars all around the world, with a country which build infrastructures all around the world.

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Post by davedx »

ClemFandango wrote: post #222
realusername wrote: post #214

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> It’s understandable it’s a touchy subject. Why piss off China if you don’t have to? Only something to lose and nothing to gain. Because that's pushing the line further and further of what the CCP can make people accept.

Business won't be the one to push the change on this attitude. It has to be people, or at best government. Most companies are morally agnostic, they only follow the money, you can judge them for it either way, but it's the truth.

> It has to be people

> Most companies are morally agnostic

What do you think makes companies do what they do? Companies consist of people. There are still people making these decisions. Many companies have taken ethical stances wrt China. Many more have not. Companies don't just get let of the hook because they're companies.

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Post by hailk »

sumedh wrote: post #228
billfruit wrote: post #202

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The international community barely cares about what India is similarly doing in Kashmir, despite India being a democracy. In effect the most fundamental right in a democracy, the right to habeas corpus is suspended there. There is much politically informed anti-China coverage in the MSM, so it is hard to take reports on China from them without much skepticism. Even in Hong Kong it is on display that the police are la…

Is India running concentration camps as well?

> India is similarly doing in Kashmir.

That line just proves how much of an echo chamber this place really is when it comes to international affairs.

I live in India. I just had lunch with my colleague who is a Kashmiri native. His parents recently arrived from that state, and his father has returned back to run his medical shop. Though the situation is not ideal, it is a far cry away from being a breach of democracy or humanitarian concerns. The government has evoked constitutional law to maintain peace and order, largely as preventive measures against extremist operations and organisation. This has certainly affected the lives of daily citizens, no doubt, but the way western media blows it out of proportion one can just wonder whether it is genuinely clueless journalism or ideologically motivated smear campaign.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by matt4077 »

iooi wrote: post #44
jessewmc wrote: post #11

Strange optics not to mention the elephant in the room. I could see them hitting some roadblocks and wanting to try again to get into China, but that would be a reasonable thing to come out and say. It also would be reasonable to come out and say they've changed their minds due to political climate or some other risks. Instead its... the new guy is busy?

They probably have a significant investment from Chinese LPs. It could put those investors in a very awkward situation if YC was more explicit with their statement -- we've all seen how childishly defensive the Chinese government can get.

I interpreted OP to be referring to a different elephant, in another, oddly-shaped, room.

..but your feat of childish defensiveness applies either way.

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