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Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by kempbellt »

sorenjan wrote: post #260
kempbellt wrote: post #212

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Sure. As @diminoten mentions, legality is questionable here, so I do not recommend. If you do dabble, restrict access, and encrypt everything so that if you lose your keys, they only option is to destroy the stack and start over. Cloud provider of your choice Plex media server running on a high-throughput instance, with cloud storage mounted locally for reading. (Redundantly created in multiple regions depending on w…

$400/month and multiple cloud instances sounds like overkill though. The same could probably be achieved with a Raspberry Pi or Intel NUC on your home network. Maybe an RPi wouldn't be great for multiple reencodings, but I don't think that's really needed. How often do you really want to watch low resolution TV-series on your mobile data connection? One feature I haven't seen on any commercial service is the ability…

Transcoding video won't work on a Raspi (in any realistic sense), and video streaming is pretty I/O intensive if you have multiple clients.

You can certainly get a similar thing working on a Raspi, but you'll likely notice buffering issues. Especially if you try to stream different content to different clients.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by sjy »

basch wrote: post #220
moate wrote: post #159

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>>We are also talking about a generation who is saying "I wont pay $7-$15 four times, thats too expensive" but while growing up, who's parents were paying $150/m to Comcast or DirecTV. Yea I'm part of the group of millenials killing everything. Here's my honest to god thoughts: I don't care if piracy is killing the industry, or if these people aren't able to keep operating. Let the whole thing burn to the ground. We'…

No comment on responsibility or culpability. But, "I want everything for $9 that used to cost $99" is an unreasonable expectation. People paying for cable and satellite are paying way more than the cost of even 5 of these unbundled services. And pay for tv still has commercials. These direct from content producer unbundled apps are still significantly cheaper than the old world. People's expectation of what content s…

“I want everything for $9 that used to cost $99” is perfectly reasonable in markets where technology has dramatically lowered costs. It’s certainly what I expect when buying computer hardware, but it should also apply to the market for distributing films that have already been made. If the service you want is the ability to watch one movie a week from a huge catalogue, streaming technology has brought the cost of delivering the service way down, but the cost to the consumer has gone up compared to DVD rental!

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by maxerickson »

kempbellt wrote: post #176
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #131

No worries, I'll just use the torrent sharers. I bet those will give me a constant 4K quality on all my devices, no ridiculous DRM, get to keep them once I terminate my "subscription", etc. Oh and it's free, not 10-15$ USD for each service.

I may (or may not) have built my own Netflix competitor. It had more content than all of the major providers combined. Legal buffer: I will not say what the content was. It may have all been non-copyrighted cat videos ;) The service was available cross region. Stored videos in multiple resolutions for streamability in low-bandwidth situations. No DRM bs. It cost me under $400/month to run the whole service, and I cou…

So let's rephrase that.

"Expecting people to pay for your service is childish."

They aren't going after people, they are just resetting passwords.

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Post by jplayer01 »

notatoad wrote: post #278
stevenjohns wrote: post #274

Perhaps Neflix, HBO and Cable Giants don't realise that in 2019 the internet is super fast, storage is super cheap and piracy is easier than ever. If they want to take an inch, I'm prepared to revert to hosting a media server for all of my friends and family with all sorts of wonderful cat videos.

Yeah, i'm a somewhat reformed pirate, and the only reason i've switched from piracy to netflix and prime is because netflix is easier. If it stops being easier, i'll be back to piracy pretty quickly

I was subscribed to Netflix for years until recently. I’ve given up. It’s the high seas for me. And anybody who argues I just want stuff for free is twisting the narrative. I was and still am more than happy to reward content creators as long as they make some effort towards ensuring my convenience. All I see now is maximum rent-seeking, so I’m out.

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Post by freeflight »

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #131

No worries, I'll just use the torrent sharers. I bet those will give me a constant 4K quality on all my devices, no ridiculous DRM, get to keep them once I terminate my "subscription", etc. Oh and it's free, not 10-15$ USD for each service.

Careful with that, in some countries, anti-piracy outfits are monitoring torrent releases and sending out c&d letters in bulk to people who they catch downloading/uploading with a domestic IP.

Particularly a problem in Germany, that's why it's best to use a torrent-friendly VPN in countries like that.

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Post by rovr138 »

nannal wrote: post #241
diminoten wrote: post #195

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He's (possibly) overselling his accomplishment here a little bit. You can achieve what he's describing using a combination of Plex, Sonarr, Jackett, and a private torrent site. You also need a torrent client that can work with Sonarr (Synology's torrent client works great in "watch this directory" mode). It's a truly self-running system. Other than the upgrades, you're able to select whatever shows you want to follow…

Anyone want a docker compose file? Would take about 30 minutes to actually get everything up if you have most of an idea of what to do and a sloppily written guide.

Sure, post a GitHub/Gitlab link.

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

basch wrote: post #251
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #233

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Going by that logic, if I watch a movie twice or more, I should be charged more? What is the difference, “electricity” and “bandwidth” wise if I watch twice, or me and my coworker watch once?

You signed an agreement for your own use, not to allow your friends to use their servers. Its about the agreement you made.

But that's moving the goalpost. You said that sharing an account has a cost. I ask you, if I watch once and my wife watches another time, how is that different from me watching once and my coworker watching at another time?

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Post by freeflight »

Password sharing is also used by semi-legal outfits to offer content across services with only one "meta subscription".

The websites for these services look very slick and "proper", so for the consumer, there's pretty good plausible deniability involved.

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

Hitton wrote: post #264
WhiskeyJack55 wrote: post #231

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I use the free version of plex. Only pain in the ass is having to pay the ~$5 to authorize for a new android device to use the app. It does everything I need to watch my...personal home videos. I'm sure I could use a completely FOSS setup, but plex is convenient especially paired with...other services.

If you want completely FOSS setup, check out Jellyfin [0], it keeps steadily improving. [0]: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin

Interesting, thanks for sharing!
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